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We obsess over the angry young men going Reform. But what of the anxious young women going Green?
(www.theguardian.com)
That's the laziest whatabout I've seen in days.
this post was submitted on 25 Apr 2025
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At the time of righting the upvote/downvote ratio is 30%, with a score of -4 so I feel it would be good if I make a comment here to say that this is written by a woman from England, so she is talking about people like herself.
I'll also share the following from the article to provide extra context:
Why isnβt this quiet form of female political alienation ringing more alarm bells?
But the failure even to be curious about what it is young women are trying to say, just because their chosen revolt against the mainstream takes a less aggressive or destructive form than young Reformersβ, feels profoundly unfair. Sometimes it pays to listen to people sitting quietly at the back, not just the ones screaming in your face.
I'll refrain from expressing an opinion about the people who downvoted this article, since I don't know them.
This article is shite, voting for the Greens in the UK is not some radical act. For many many years they've been the only progressive or humanist political party available.
Source: used to live in Sheffield back when they had good coverage of the Greens, before the tree wars.
I don't think that is what this article seems to want to say. The greens aren't any radical left party anywhere (except maybe in the US where politics seem to be firmly rooted right).
I think the article makes the point of listening to young women more, who have mostly been forgotten in our discourse of political disparity in different age groups.
I agree, I don't see the writer arguing how radical or not the greens are. Her point is about these women, who are (just like young men) no longer voting for the parties in the middle. I think this is a trend also happening outside of the UK and here in The Netherlands nobody considers this a radical thing but we also have an ever increasing gap between the parties on the right (who attract more young men) and those on the left (who attract more young women).
I myself believe mysogonists in the far right behave much more problematic than the most radical climate protesters, and I understand why the attention goes to the increase of mysogony and racism. But I appreciate this article because it points out and explains quite well how young men voting right isn't the only thing happening in the political landscape.
Then why did they use the phrase "why isn't this ringing alarm bells?" to describe the only leftist political party remaining in the UK?
The Guardian sells itself as a left-of-centre newspaper, yet they attacked Jeremy Corbin repeatedly, platformed the "gender critical" hate group, and now think that voting for the Greens is something that should be alarming.
They also market themselves as the only paper to actively cover environmental news ...
The Graun's centre point is near the middle of the Lib Dems. Anything that even vaguely resembles socialism is alarming to them. I remember how much they fell over themselves to promote that absurd vanity project, the SDP, back in the day. I suspect they even found Blair a bit too much a lefty for their comfort.
Then why did they use the phrase "why isn't this ringing alarm bells?" to describe the only leftist political party remaining in the UK?
"This" refers to young woman voting different, on average more left then before. Read the article first, then comment.
And I'm saying that young women voting more to the left is no reason at all to sound an alarm ... if anything it's a good thing, given how the British centrist parties keep fucking people over.
Just read the article
I have read it, it literally says that some young women are being "radicalised" into voting Green, which is intensely ridiculous.
It appears aimed at bending the ears of Labour, but anyone who has been around for a while will know that Labour is very good at ignoring progressive or environmentally minded voices from within their own ranks.
Labour is very good at ignoring progressive or environmentally minded voices from within their own ranks.
Is a lot closer to what is said in the article than "some young women are being "radicalised" into voting Green"
You have not read it.
I read the first 3/4 of it, then gave up because I don't care about someone trying to talk sense into a political institution that has repeatedly failed working people since Tony "War Criminal" Blair came into power.
The use of "alarm bells" and "radicalised" didn't come off as sarcastic, so I still think this is a stupid article.
My only problem with the Greens is not that they're radical (which would be nicer), but that they're ineffectual. Our local Greens are twee bougie types who have never gotten their hands dirty. They seem deeply challenged when it comes to actually planning and executing anything. None of them seem to even know what project management is.
To implement effective change, you need to know how to actually get things done. But they don't even know that they don't know. It's deeply frustrating. Good thing most of our local Labour councillors aren't centrists.
Sounds like they need a while army of Caroline Lucases!
I suppose all the young and determined people are busy protesting or in jail.