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[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 6 points 4 hours ago

I said this before…when the fuck do we rise up? Or are we going to sit in the pot and boil?

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 hours ago

It has started. It has been out of control for some time I can guess it will end badly for our American cousins and also the world.

[–] CherryBullets@lemmy.ca 26 points 8 hours ago

First they came for the immigrants, But I said nothing, Because I'm not a filthy immigrant.

Then they came for the protestors, But I said nothing, Because protesters are libtards.

Then they came for the judges and politicians, But I said nothing, Because they are all corrupt and evil.

Then they came for the minorities, But I said nothing, Because they deserve it!

And then they came for me, Because I was a gullible tool.

  • A future MAGAT survivor.
[–] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 172 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (12 children)

ICE walked into that courthouse without a judicial warrant - no judge authorized the attempted arrest of the defendant, who I might add voluntarily appeared for his court hearing.

This is the real threat, folks. This is one of many vicious cycles they want to start. Arrest immigrants at their own hearings, when they are already complying with the will of the state. Convince others not to show up to court, make them fear any and all interactions with the state, then accuse them of being fugitives and label all of them criminals by default.

An administrative warrant doesn't mean shit to a judge. She had every right to tell them to go talk to her boss, and in the meantime? She opened the back door.

That's it. That's the crime worthy of arresting a judge. A middle aged Milwaukee woman doing her goddamn job.

She opened a door and let the defendants - who had entered her courtroom legally and voluntarily - depart safely.

These are thugs, these are kidnappers, these are criminals. Obstructing ICE is NOT obstructing justice, because ICE is the one breaking laws and stripping away the rights of every American. They act without legal authority, they act without judicial approval, and they act without any regard for freedom, or rights, or basic human dignity.

It is the goddamn right and responsibility of every American to obstruct ICE at every opportunity, because there is no justice when Judges are forced to bow to them.

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[–] witnessbolt@lemm.ee 63 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

So they have arrested two judges. ICE and FBI are traitors.

[–] witnessbolt@lemm.ee 44 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

People should start reporting illegal immigrant MA13 members at the homes or Republican officials

[–] flandish@lemmy.world 135 points 17 hours ago (10 children)

Please remember: the ICE “arrests” are KIDNAPPINGS BY NON-UNIFORMED CIVILIANS. UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE.

If you see a gang of 4 dudes with beards and guns and jeans and polo shirts … treat it like the kidnapping it is.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 218 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 41 points 15 hours ago

This is a coup

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 54 points 16 hours ago

Trump’s Night of the long knives coming next

[–] supernight52@lemmy.world 181 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (17 children)

And thus, the Night of Long Knives begins.*

Edit: The AP, as of 15 min ago has posted an update: "Dugan was taken into custody by the FBI on Friday morning on the courthouse grounds, according to U.S. Marshals Service spokesperson Brady McCarron. She appeared briefly in federal court in Milwaukee later Friday before being released from custody. Her next court appearance is May 15."

Thank goodness, she has been released- even if she is still going on trial for a trumped-up charge.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 18 hours ago (26 children)

accusation is:

“intentionally misdirected federal agents away” from Eduardo Flores Ruiz as agents were attempting to arrest him at her courthouse last week.

so this isn’t about her ruling against trump, but her directly protecting an individual from ice….

so it’s not the long knives yet, she a hero, but it’s not the mass revenge murders… yet

[–] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 13 hours ago

so this isn’t about her ruling against trump, but her directly protecting an individual from ice….

Actually it's very indirect. The accusation implies that she told ICE agents "he's over there!" and scattered like a cartoon distraction. In reality, she told them they had no jurisdiction in the court, and that they had to go talk to her boss.

That's not misdirection, that's just normal workplace behavior. They don't have jurisdiction in the courtroom, therefore they were not pursuing justice in the courtroom, therefore it can't be obstruction of justice to tell them to fuck off.

[–] supernight52@lemmy.world 76 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That's just the official language. They may not kill her, but they are going to remove anyone that gets in their way is what this says to me.

[–] iridebikes@lemmy.world 37 points 18 hours ago

They're going to use her as an example for the justification to arrest other judges as well. This is unprecedented and is going to lead to open violence in the streets.

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 29 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Oh thank God! I through the news was quiet today! So now we're arresting judges. Checks and balances go out the window. Now its just a clear dictatorship.

[–] xorollo@leminal.space 2 points 9 hours ago

We've had a few evil weeks, I thought we were going to get a dumb week for once.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 88 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I don't see any mention of a warrant.

Not that I'm surprised by that, but to say this is an "escalation" is an understatement.

This is a declaration of absolute power.

Edit: she was released on bond. Meaning a magistrate validated a warrant. Who signed the warrant?

Editl 2: Magistrate Dries did, yesterday. FBI Agent Lindsay Schloemer filed the complaint. Interestinginly Dugar wasn't the only judge who told the ICE officers to fuck off (in legal terms). She just told them then defendant and his attorney they could leave because ICE didn't have the correct warrant.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 77 points 17 hours ago

America, this is your five alarm fire. If everything else wasn't enough to get you moving, dear God please let this be it.

Get out and protest. Get talking to the other people at those protests. Build your network. You're going to need it for what is coming.

[–] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 88 points 18 hours ago (18 children)

This is how civil war starts. If the judiciary starts issuing arrest warrants over this unlawful kidnapping, they may need to deputize officers that are not under the control of the trump admin which could pit our armed forces against each other. Best case scenario is the judiciary finds the arrest unlawful and the FBI backs down because they're being threatened with contempt.

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[–] SuperEars@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago

My local branch of the ICE Enforcement and Removal division is not answering calls. It rings and rings without end.

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 94 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Senators, governors, and mayors of "sanctuaries" are going to be close behind.

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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 64 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Hey guys, it’s a really good sign when judges are getting arrested, right? Very normal and functioning country? 😬

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 41 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

This is a clear authoritarian signal and power grab, but trying to think practically since I'm getting exhausted with my own powerless exasperation with nothing to show for it:

To get an arrest warrant, you typically would need a judge to sign off on it. So either (a) another judge signed the warrant to arrest this judge, or (b) they falsely arrested the judge without a proper warrant.

I think (b) is possible with how slipshod Trump officials are, but more likely they followed the letter if not the spirit of the law, so (a). That suggests that there may be a pocket judge signing spurious warrants for Patel. This also makes more sense, since they likely need cover when assisting ICE, so they'd want someone in that role.

So in a healthy system, first would be Congress forcibly removing Patel. Probably every GOP congressperson's response here will be "I haven't heard about that, now I'll walk away down this hall casual-like because frankly nobody is going to hold me accountable." The other less direct approach would be to identify this judge then there may be a removal process. What other things can be done here short of revolution?

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