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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

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Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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ORGANIZATIONS

Black Lives Matter

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Innocence Project

The Marshall Project

Movement Law Lab

NAACP

National Police Accountability Project

Say Their Names

Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration

 

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[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 65 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Crazy that many of these rules exist in every other job but the fact that they need to put it in writing is telling

[–] rmrf@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

To be frank, it could be that theyre putting it in writing because it hasn't yet been. Not that that's much better, but it's possible.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I once went to a condo building's gym. The trash can had a sign over it that said "Please do not spit, pee, or poo in the trash can". The fact that this needed to be written, printed, laminated and stuck to the wall always blew my mind.

This headline has the same vibe.

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 4 points 2 months ago

People are animals.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I tell you, I gotta plead ignorance on this thing, because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here, that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know...

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

These pretzels are making me thirsty!

[–] j_roby@slrpnk.net 21 points 2 months ago
[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Man, they won't let you have any fun anymore!

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

This country's gone woke. You can't even get head from your trainee in your squad car between 288a calls anymore.

[–] bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago

No way this will pass. The police will throw a fit.