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[–] Cimbazarov@hexbear.net 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

At first I thought this was a leak, but no they are just very open about wanting spies in the CPC.

I feel like Trump operates on the assumption that no one will react to counteract whatever strategy he implements. It's the simplest answer I can think of.

Also lmao, all the things they listed as reasons why someone would want to defect (firing, jailed, disappeared) are things the US government has done this year

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 1 points 5 days ago

all the spies they had got got a few years ago so they have to recruit like this

[–] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 1 points 5 days ago

I feel like Trump operates on the assumption that no one will react to counteract whatever strategy he implements.

Well, when his greatest domestic opposition is the democratic party, it's been a correct and winning assumption. The logic becomes "What's anyone gonna do, impeach me again?" On top of that, when most of the vassals fall immediately in to line when he says so, being good dogs for the US, and the strategy keeps working even with foreign policy, there's not much incentive to do otherwise. Fortunately China is not the Democrats nor are they Europe.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 1 points 5 days ago

Having my fake CIA application thrown out when they realize I'm doing a bit

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 1 points 5 days ago

Wanna join the losing team right before the finals?

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

You're getting the death sentence in China if you're caught for this. No doubt about it.

Maybe you'll be offered either death sentence or double agent (closely monitored).

Anyway the applications for this thing are going to be absolutely filled with loyal CPC agents. If I were China I would send my spies to apply as spies for the Americans.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

In USA you get the presidency for this.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 1 points 4 days ago

You're getting the death sentence in China if you're caught for this. No doubt about it.

Could this be an attempt to make up some "human rights abuses" claims about China? I feel like it's too absurd to actually work for spying, but maybe it is more for manufacturing consent.

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 0 points 4 days ago (3 children)

You're getting the death sentence in China if you're caught for this. No doubt about it.

doubt

Please produce the law in China in regards to this showing you will be killed or some examples of it happening. Don't just do the liberal thing where you assume "China authoritarian and kills everybody" thing. Let's be better than that on a leftist website, jfc.

[–] IttihadChe@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

You're doing the liberal thing where you assume any sort of necessary action in the real world which wouldn't happen in a utopia must be evil authoritarianism if China/ other socialist country is doing it.

[–] QuietCupcake@hexbear.net 1 points 4 days ago

Is it not pretty standard in most countries for literal foreign intelligence spies to be executed for treason and espionage? It's not like Awoo is singling China out as "those dastardly Asians" in the usual liberal way, just acknowledging that China doesn't treat CIA moles with kid gloves, nor should they.

Also, I'm not going to go digging around right now for non-western sources on this, but isn't it well known that China did execute a number of US spies a few years ago? It's been discussed here before.
https://hexbear.net/post/144648
https://hexbear.net/post/162097
https://hexbear.net/comment/2207952
https://hexbear.net/comment/4616457

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Giving state secrets to a foreign adversary is 110% a capital punishment in China.

This is not propaganda. I don't see why you think literal actual treason wouldn't hold the death penalty in a country that holds the death penalty for drugs crimes and murders.

Depending on city this is implemented by either shooting or injection. Fairly mixed implementations across the country as many cities have no injection facility. The most recent two mass murderers that attacked schoolchildren for example were both shot.

[–] RedStarOS@hexbear.net 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Big brain strategy: show up to be a spy for the CIA but secretly be a spy for China the whole time

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 1 points 5 days ago

Treason is the most based crime

[–] jack@hexbear.net 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This is the worst spycraft I could ever imagine

[–] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Well the network of spies they had back in the day were all put in the blender and now no one wants to take the risk, also you could find plenty of hanjian in China back then but life is a whole lot better now.

The real threat is letting the Shanghai liberal clique take over and do a Gorby + Yeltsin, you wanna find CIA spies you look there first.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 1 points 5 days ago

Any CIA agent born after 1973 doesn't know how to engage in cloak and dagger, they just tweet, eat hot chip, and lie