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I asked Wendy if I could read the paper she turned in, and when I opened the document, I was surprised to see the topic: critical pedagogy, the philosophy of education pioneered by Paulo Freire. The philosophy examines the influence of social and political forces on learning and classroom dynamics. Her opening line: “To what extent is schooling hindering students’ cognitive ability to think critically?” Later, I asked Wendy if she recognized the irony in using AI to write not just a paper on critical pedagogy but one that argues learning is what “makes us truly human.” She wasn’t sure what to make of the question. “I use AI a lot. Like, every day,” she said. “And I do believe it could take away that critical-thinking part. But it’s just — now that we rely on it, we can’t really imagine living without it.”

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[–] CeliacMcCarthy@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago

actual for real no-foolin' new dark age

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yea i graduated just before the proliferation (although in my final year everyone was cheating in more old-school ways, as we were in online college due to covid). my sister is finishing her teaching undergrad currently and she says everyone uses it, you're just falling behind in efficiency with menial assignments (lesson plans, etc.) if you don't.

[–] simontherockjohnson@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

she says everyone uses it, you’re just falling behind in efficiency with menial assignments (lesson plans, etc.) if you don’t.

I went to an engineering school and in undergrad people who had the same opinion typically just did their assignments as a group and copied each other. The reality is that they didn't want to put in the 10 hours-ish a day that the job of being a student technically entails, each 4 credit course is supposed to be ~12-16 hours. a week. Some places it's longer/shorted depending on the school/curriculum. If you're taking a full semester which is typically 16 credits at many places, that's 48-64 hours a week.

It's a lot of time. I feel for people who struggle with it because they have to work, I did as well, but a lot of kids just wanted to party.

[–] GeneralSwitch2Boycott@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is there a certain segment of society that this applies to or is it widespread throughout? Because there must be some people who know this is bad right?

[–] trinicorn@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm seeing a lot of normalization of this (and other bad things) in high schoolers. They weren't really paying attention to the wider world until a few years ago so anything older than a year or so has basically been around forever and doesn't need to be questioned. Some will learn to question it as they grow and mature, but few have really yet at their age.

Basically they seem to take at face value that it produces worthwhile output and is useful and intelligent. tbf this applies to many adults too, but I hate the conflation of "parrots sometimes-relevant, sometimes-real material" with intelligence just because it sounds confident doing it, and I see it constantly

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It is literally everyone. I do not know a student that does not use AI. It is so hard to find the motivation to struggle through my work when I know my peers have it so much easier.

[–] trinicorn@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

do what you gotta do, but ultimately if you are in a position where you care at all about what you are learning and feel it is actually being taught, not just slop assignments shoveled your way for no reason, then IMO you will come out of it glad that you actually learned your field rather than becoming a middling prompt engineer

[–] NoGodsNoMasters@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

i know i don't and i'm pretty sure a lot (most?) of the people i know don't either, but then again i don't think my degree has amazing job prospects (so it seems to be largely people interested it) and it also doesn't cost american sums of money, so maybe that doesn't say that much.

[–] por_que_pine@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"No you can't use a calculator! You won't always have one in your pocket." ~ '90s math teachers.

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[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago

Wtf its only been useful to these schmucks for like two years

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