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The Epstein Files: Trump, Trafficking, and the Unraveling Cover-Up
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Is pedophilia a prerequisite for joining the financial elite?
A person gets that rich because their morals allow them to exploit other people.
Once they are that rich, they can get anything they want, they no longer have the "thrill of the hunt" and substitute it for the "thrill of the forbidden".
When you feel invincible you tend to test that invulnerability. We should feel lucky they aren't hunting us for sport just to prove they can.
... as far as we know. Victims of pedophilia often survive and could at least theoretically tell about the crimes. Dead people don't.
Who knows how many people who "fell through the cracks" of society were picked up and hunted for sports? I don't think anyone would start a manhunt if some homeless people disappear.
I would NOT be surprised if billionaires would do this.
You know I was going to say its probably some sort of "forbidden fruit" but if that were the case I think a pedophile ring would be the tip of the iceberg.
Watch the movie Hostel, or read the synopsis, and tell me that doesn't seem plausible.
Escape Room has a similar premise. One could also argue Cabin In The Woods tells a similar tale of shadowy groups of elites using human sacrifice if you put billionaires in place of the Old Gods.
See I would have gone with The Most Dangerous Game first, but human sacrifice is totally there. Cannablisim or some shit too
Well, it certainly seems to give the other rich bastards a trustworthy amount of blackmail
also mentions a tentative breakfast with Bill Gates.
Oh look, more evidence that bill gates probably raped children.
In my experience people online are really reluctant to believe this of gates, despite the constant stream of evidence from epstein files, the workplace culture and business practices that reflect a psychopath in charge and the need for one of the most expensive PR excersizes in history since ashoka the terrible started promoting buddhism.
It's because he has been the victim of clearly unfair attacks. So many people will defend that person to the hilt on everything because they were unfairly attacked on other things.
We see this over and over with government agencies that the Republicans may attack to try to make them worse and everybody else pretends like they were doing an acceptable job all around.
Bill Gates is a piece of shit though, in at least three different ways. Pushing over use of toxic pesticides like glyphosate, advocating for spraying sulfur dioxide en masse in the upper atmosphere to slow global warming in so-called Geo engineering, and as you mentioned, fucking underage girls.
He's not one of the good guys no matter how good his PR people did in the last 30 years painting him as a likable old coot. He is not that, he is a deluded man that has nobody to tell him when he is wrong in his orbit.
I mean, it’s also possible he’s just a piece of shit in other ways and he was actually meeting with Epstein for some run of the mill neoliberal horror show, like convincing farmers in Sudan to use RoundUp Ready® crops or something like that. I guess I’m just saying, not all evil motherfuckers are evil in the same way.
NOTE: I am not in any way trying to say I think Bill Gates is 100% not a pedo, just that without him being on a flight manifest to the rape island, or testimony from a victim, I’m not certain he is a pedo.
Gates himself admitted Epstein brought him a woman and her daughter to eat dinner with him and called them beautiful. So we know Epstein was at least attempting this with Gates. And Melissa imo divorced him related to this given her comments in a recent interview.
It's the same as Michael Jackson - his own daughter Paris believes he did those crimes to boys. That adds a lot of credibility imo. Someone's wife or daughter isn't casually going to accept this, they had to do a lot of processing first
Jackson's kinda weird though? I honestly believe his dad pumped him with puberty blockers. That theory explains everything about the "man", his childish voice and body and interests.
Jackson was a rich man in a child's body. Viewed through that lens, all the insane shit he did makes sense. I lived those times, and everyone was crazy talking about how he pulled such childish stunts. We wrote it off to being rich and crazy.
I know the LAPD found CSAM in his place, evidence that never came to trial. But he was basically a child in a man's (sorta) body, not sure what else I would expect from such a literally unnatural upbringing.
LOL, sorry, WAY off topic, but I see Jackson as a victim more than a perpetrator.
The thing with Bill Gates is, he was an absolute piece of shit while running Microsoft. Basically killing all the competitors and trying to kill open source projects.
The whole he's a good person look at what he is doing with his money, is just flawed. He shouldn't have that money in the first place. He definitely screwed over other people and companies to get that kind of money. If you think I don't care about companies, well the extra costs will just go to the consumer, so us.
I seriously doubt everyone who traveled to that island was in on the rapes. But you about couldn't convince me any given visitor was ignorant of the crimes.
Yeah I'm just not sure.
Are you granted entry to the child rape island to just look around and talk to people without incriminating yourself? Seems unlikely.
Was there a single attendee who managed to avoid sexually assaulting a minor? Maybe. Would I believe anyone who says that was them? Absolutely not.
Epstein was loaning and moving millions, maybe billions, of dollars. I can hardly pretend to understand what the game is like on that level.
But first and foremost, Epstein was a financier. The money was top, girls second. And the girls were a source of pleasure and blackmail. Rinse and repeat. C-C-C-COMBO! Once you set foot in that tar pit, for whatever reason, you're stuck.
Gates, for all his flaws, never struck me as a kiddy fucker. Horny wasn't his game. Ruthless domination of the IT world was his goal, and he got it. Does that make sense? And yes, I am well aware of his evil past. I started learning computers when he was a kid building Microsoft in the 80s. Read his unauthorized biography, tracked him on the news, worked his ecosystems, seen where he's been, mostly. I get it.
Guess I'm only saying, because he met Epstein, flew to his island, not automatically putting rape on his record. But again, I'd have a hard fucking time believing he didn't know.
I don't get how the MAGA voters, can believe there is a secret pedo ring that runs the world, then vote for one of its members, who isn't even hiding what a piece of shit he is.
It must be secret or it is no longer a conspiracy. The "cabal" of rich and powerful people running the world known to everyone ? Nah not interesting, it must be a secret cabal ...
That's how cults work.
maybe their thought process is that they wish they could be part of it too
Instead of temporarily embarrassed millionaires, they're actually temporally embarrassed pedophiles?
And they still don't think he is involved somehow. They are so excited to tell you Bill Clinton is involved given the same evidence lol
Like anyone gives a shit if Bill Clinton was locked up haha
Musk is a pedophile?
Always the ones you mostly suspect.
He had a kink roleplay account where he pretended to be his toddler son picking up women.... so yeah
...his TODDLER son? Excuse me what the actual fuck?
Plenty of articles out there, https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/elon-musk-confirms-used-burner-190847581.html
His dad is definitely a pedo: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/23/world/africa/elon-musk-father-errol-child-abuse.html
Like father, like son.
Covert pedos are usually sometimes the loudest screaming pedophilia at people as an insult.
Just learned that Erica Kirk was in on all the human trafficking as well. I swear this is the thing binding all these assholes together. Raping children and blackmailing each other over it. Disgusting.
Recommend the documentary Children Underground, about Romanian street children and their lives. Imo it really adds an element to this and her connections to trafficking Romanian kids decades after this documentary.
Also, Ghilisaine Maxwell's dad had a similar charity to fly Romanian orphans to Israel on his plane: https://www.nli.org.il/he/images/%20nnl_archive_al990040300950205171/NLI#$FL45875197
Just learned that Erica Kirk was in on all the human trafficking as well.
Eh?
A little Ghislaine Maxwell in training. No woman would nestle Trump like that just because she was grieving. It was so staged it hurt.
She is also obviously not grieving at all, she got what she wanted and now is on track to be the first female president.
We already knew that Elon Musk was a pedo, but it is nice to get confirmation.
Now we just need to wait for a Peter Thiel speech on how releasing the Epstein files will release the antichrist.
More trickle feeds. I'm not surprised by Bill Gates after his orange lipped dinner with Trump.
Roughly six pages from more than 8,500 documents provided by Epstein’s estate to Democratic members on the House Oversight Committee include meeting schedules appearing to show appointments with Bannon and venture capitalist Peter Thiel during Donald Trump’s first term in office.
The documents also mention Musk joining a potential trip to Epstein’s island in 2014.
Prince Andrew also is listed in the documents as a passenger on Epstein’s aircraft, with financial disclosures provided to the committee suggesting evidence of payments from Epstein to an individual listed as “Andrew.”
The inclusion of one’s name in the documents does not indicate wrongdoing.
Republicans on the committee called the latest batch of files “old news.”
“It's sad how Democrats are conveniently withholding documents that contain the names of Democratic officials” and “putting politics over victims,” according to Oversight Republicans. “We are [totally] releasing [one or two of] them all soon [lol].”
I wish they would release all of it. Let’s see all of the names. I’m tired of the shit being used as a weapon… everyone needs to go down that deserves to.