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D.A. Hochman officially brings death penalty back to Los Angeles (www.latimes.com)

submitted 1 week ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world

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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Anyone in favour of the death penalty should first experience it themselves.

[–] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I'd gladly take it, if it guarantees, that Musk, Trump+ his cabinet, and these healthcare Oligarchs were right after.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

Yes more power to the "judges" wearing wacky costumes while putting people in cages, torture, death... \s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

[+] dabati8@sh.itjust.works -12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

What's wrong with it exactly?

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

Ask Marcellus Williams.

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just try a little empathy exercise: what if you were arrested for a heinous crime, that you know for certain you didn’t commit, but you don’t have an alibi and there’s enough evidence that points to you, that you end up being tried, found guilty, and sentenced to death.

You know that you didn’t commit the crime, but nobody else believes you or can properly make your case. In carrying out your sentence, the government is murdering an innocent person who was wronged by the justice system. If you had been sentenced to life in prison, there’s a good chance some new facts might have come to light and exonerated you. This happens all the time.

Why does the government get to kill people, when killing people is one of our worst crimes? To me, the death penalty is state-sanctioned revenge. It’s the government saying it’s entitled to commit an awful crime, in order to punish an awful crime. Sometimes it’s committing the very same crime the person was sentenced for. That logic has always been completely confounding to me.

Still curious what’s wrong with the death penalty?

[–] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I simply don't agree that the government should be allowed to murder.

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

Yup, that’s what it all boils down to.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago

The injustice system is a violent, racist construct based on slavery, religion, etc.

[–] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you put five people to death, but one is later discovered to have been completely innocent, would you still support the death penalty?

The US justice system is far from perfect, and even further from blind.

Innocent people are often railroaded by the justice system in order to close a case.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Hell, we apparently still execute people even if we find out they are completely innocent BEFORE they are executed.

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago

Yup, Marcellus Williams was executed on September 24, 2024, after significant evidence of his innocence was well known. Even though the victim’s family had consistently said they did not want him to be executed, the Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey acted liked a one-man murderous mob and insisted that this innocent man be killed, after already being wrongfully imprisoned for nearly 24 years. He didn’t even want the evidentiary hearing to go forward. What legitimate reason would someone ever have to deny someone the right to show evidence of their innocence? It’s not the first time that asshole AG Andrew Bailey didn’t care about whether or not someone actually committed a crime.

There are few things that make me angrier and more afraid than someone who genuinely thinks they have the power to purposefully work against the truth when someone’s life is on the line.