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Great card. I am surprised how well this card performs on Bazzite.
It's really good. I can see the 9070 and the XT being GTX 970 and GTX 1060 levels of long term relevance in gaming PCs
Currently running a GTX1060 and it's such a workhorse, my gosh.
Got my RX 9070 on the way :)
With the rise of PC handhelds and cutting edge graphics not seeming like a great selling point anymore, I think you'll be golden for about a decade like that 1060. Maybe more because of the rise of PC handhelds and the Switch 2 and future Switch 3
Honestly this whole "AMD sells more!" "Well Nvidia sells more in THIS place!" is a fool's errand to keep fighting over. Different locations in the world will have different pricing and thus it will shift which brand/card is better value for the money, and it will also depend on local tax laws and a ton of other variables. Brazil, for example, has AMD have somewhat lower prices overall thanks to AMD having an assembly plant here, something neither Nvidia and Intel have, and thus, their GPUs/CPUs are more expensive.
They'd probably sell even more of their naming scheme was less confusing.
It's just "confusing" because people are used to nvidia naming
so that's not just me being unable to keep a good hierarchy of their shit in my thought cabinet?
Maybe AMD is cheaper at Mindfactory than other resellers, and with NVidia it's the other way around?
At least in EU it just could have been just the right pricing with models in 800-900 EUR for 9070XT. Still outrageous price..
Then you have 5070 that's the "low" model of 50s Nvidia that only maching 9070XT with "you can do AI and RTX" and 5080 arguably better than 9070XT, but in most cases over 1k EUR.
Is this just this week's exception or is this representative of the retail market?
Might just be a personal perspective, but the majority of Nvidia cards that I've seen purchased in my community (Not in germany tho) are second hand - most aren't buying the 50 series due to their horrible pricing. People are buying AMD cards new though due to their good value proposition.
The power consumption of the 50xx cards is just insane, and this makes it a bad choice in Germany where electricity prices are very high. This means I have to pay a premium for the card, extra for the excessive power demands and potentially extra in summer to keep my gaming room cool.
That is an important aspect I didn't consider, good catch.
While nobody is talking about the Intel B580, which was actually spectacular for the price.
I think the limiting factor for that one is availability depending on region. In the US the B580 is an amazing budget card, but AMD has a better distribution network in say LATAM nations.
Nvidia are selling many multiples of this volume to AI providers.
Gaming means essentially nothing in the big picture. (Outside of maybe prestige or similar)
This statistic refers only to enthusiasts who build their own PCs. It does not represent the overall PC market, laptops, or data-center and other business purchases.
Yeah, I just got a new gaming laptop. Nobody sells gaming laptops with AMD GPUs in my country. I looked! So I went with an AMD CPU and a 5070 instead.
I almost never see AMD GPU's laptops. Like 10 years of them being a rarity. Don't even know if they have a mobile available 9060 yet. I think don't think AMD produce much laptop GPUs for vendors anyways
Afaik framework offers an option for AMD GPUs.
The 9070XT is a good card for the price, and that doesn't tell us a lot, there's going to be markets where AMD does better and some where Nvidia does better, as an AMD user I feel like they still fall behind with their drivers, I've had many Driver timeouts with my RX6700XT just because I was hitting alt tab on CS2, I've never had it on Nvidia.
Also someone who does a lot of upscaling with Topaz I would have loved to see AMD making some serious grounds there there's no reason why they should be that behind with content creators, I don't think we'll ever see the GPU department catching up as the CPU did with Ryzen but I feel like everytime Nvidia fucks something up, AMD does the same so It's a game of who's going to fuck up more.
I bought the 6700xt just because I was contemplating on the 3070 but I saw it was an 8GB VRAM card and I thought yeah miss me with that shit.
Do you have any experience with Topaz and a 9070xt? I don't because my 9070 PC runs Linux but I do have a Topaz license that goes to like 5.1 that I use on an older PC with an Nvidia card that serves as my Windows only software computer
Benchmarks for the 9070xt seemed competitive for Topaz
I was hoping Topaz would release for Linux since they had beta versions available but they didn't update past 5.1 and then recently announced they were cancelling the Linux support plans and then they went full on subscription plans rather than buy once for a year of updates and then it's yours to keep
I don't, I have a 6700xt I don't remember much about my settings but It's quite slow when upscaling to 4K.
Someday I'll get a drive to install Windows on and test the version of Topaz I have with it. The Puget benchmarks with it and Topaz are good but don't know if my final version is recent enough to be stable with the 9070
Do you have any recommendations, I used to upscale and restore old Trailers, Videos, Porn and etc. I don't remember what model I used but I always used flowframes for 60fps interpolation
Topaz is absolutely the best. There are other commercial software out there that's talked up a bit but everything i've read says Topaz is still better. Free stuff, nothing really comes close. There's this that i hope get's better and more developer interest. Available on Linux and Windows
https://github.com/TNTwise/REAL-Video-Enhancer
If you're Windows only, there's this. It's more mature in development
https://github.com/AaronFeng753/Waifu2x-Extension-GUI
But Topaz is better than everything else. It's why I grabbed a used laptop with an Nvidia GPU for a good price
The free stuff is real hit or miss with real life video. Animations generally always looks good
What models do you recommend usually for AMD cards?
I buy XFX. I think Sapphire is really well regarded. I feel like I had a Sapphire ATI card a long time ago. Pretty sure XFX and Sapphire are the major time tested brands. You can probably be good buying the cheapest brand though
No I meant in Topaz Labs.
Oh. I like doing a round 4x in Iris and then converting it down and doing a 4x in Proteus. A lot of times Iris is enough. The newer starlight mini everyone says is way better especially with not making terrifying faces when there's not enough data but I'm not subscribing again for that
Is Iris much faster than you, also how do you convert it?
Iris does seem faster to me compared to Proteus. Didn't see much use for me from like Gaia compared to Proteus. I convert down resolution with Handbrake with a pretty high quality target for h264 and then run it again in topaz with Proteus. 4x with Iris, than resolution back down by 4 and then 4x back up with Proteus. I feel like Iris + Proteus gives a real good result for low resolution content
If you have the full settings with Iris and Handbrake for me in a screenshot, thank you. I wanna upload some content when I'll return to Reddit.
Iris I always use medium video quality source. Anything that needs low usually looks terrible on the upscale
Thank you, may I ask why you downscale and then upscale again rather than just take what Iris gives you
Iris is really good with faces. That's it's design. The reason is going from a high res up 4x takes too long and downscaling fuzzes up the picture a bit so things don't get too smoothed out when you upscale a 2nd time. Also there's a resolution limit on the upscale so can't get too large
And here I bought an Intel b580. -sigh-