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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago

Many tankies are apologetic of Russian imperialism as well.

[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 6 points 3 hours ago

I remember seeing a video posted fairly early on, showing a award ceremony where an LDR/DPR fighter was given medal for "his contributions to denazification". Both him and his commander was smugly smirking at each other. But what really tore it? The guy being awarded the medal was wearing shoulder patches featuring a Totenkopf and a Valknut.

I've lost count of the number of photos from Wagner Group youth camps featuring Nazi iconography. Never mind people like Dmitry Utkin and his tattoos.

[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 38 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

To Russians, 'Nazi' is not a political ideology or a party, it's simply "Whoever is against Russia right now". Are you against Russia? You're a Nazi, it's as simple as that. If they had to contend with the idea that Nazism is a political ideology, they'd have to start calling themselves Nazis, which doesn't work in the Russian psyche.

So, when Russians say that Ukrainians are Nazis, what they really mean is "Ukrainians are fighting back when we kill their children. That makes them enemies and therefore Nazis"

[–] kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Yes. The current modern neo-nazis behave similarly: they claim only the others (the ones they don't like) are Nazis and their own kind just want the "freedom" to say and do what they like, e.g. get rid of people of color, or political opponents after that. They also frequently claim they're the victims themselves (e.g. claims of "white genocide" => whites "need to fight back")). But they would never call themselves Nazis even though they are doing Nazi things regularly. Fascists twist and redefine words and meanings to serve their own agenda.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 18 minutes ago

Small correction: They go after political opponents, then minorities. Can't have organizations that can protect the minorities when you put them in camps.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

That makes a lot of sense, thanks.

[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 104 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

I'm beginning to suspect these Nazi folks aren't very honest.

[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 38 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The honesty of Nazis is a peculiar thing. In Sweden, the far-right party that the government collaborates with, who were started by literal ex-SS nazis and neo-nazis, have celebrated other ex-SS nazis, have worn swaztikas and so on. They have this "sociologist" guy whose argument for this party not being nazis anymore is basically "Look at Golden Dawn and other nazi organizations, they are open about them being nazis. Nazis are honest about being nazis. That is why the Sweden Democrats cannot be nazis, because if they were, they'd be open about it".

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 22 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Which is fucking stupid because the Nazis initially weren't honest about being Nazis. There's a reason they called it National Socialism and not National Killjews-ism.

[–] drzoidberg@lemmy.world 15 points 9 hours ago (13 children)

And every dumb fuck magat clings to that National Socialist name, unable to read any more about how right wing Nazis are.

They're the Reich wing for a reason.

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[–] skyin7@feddit.org 23 points 11 hours ago
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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 hours ago

Oooh, ooh, I know this one, me me me, teacher, me me!

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 29 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Why is the governing party of Ukraine centre while Russia is far-right.

Not to mention how the little country treats queer people way better.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Well, yeah, the bar on that last one isn't high

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 hours ago

just gotta beat one of the worst countries on earth for queer people

[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 25 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Because MAGA is in denial. They think Nazis are left wing.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago

While simultaneously waving Nazi flags

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

"BuT tHeY aRe ThE nAtIoNaLiSt socialists So ThEy MuSt Be LuBrEeLs" - these dipshits, while declaring themselves white nationalists

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 1 points 46 minutes ago

It's so easy to feel dumb people. The real problem is just how many people are dumb. Looking at education in the US, it's only gonna get worse.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 6 points 8 hours ago

“DEMOCRATS are the ones who wanted to KEEP SLAVERY” 🙄

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 hours ago (7 children)

russia DIDN'T realize that ukraine's president is a jewish person named volodymyrr zelensky (which is fine, there's NOTHING wrong with being a jewish person). seriously!

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[–] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Tbf to Russia, during "operation gladio" the CIA funded ultra far right nationalist paramilitaries all across Europe which they paid for by running the heroine game out of Myanmar in collusion with the sicilian mob. It's the main reason for the rise of the far right all across Europe.

To be real with Russia, the idea that they could de-nazify another country when they couldn't even do it to themselves is a sick joke. However, the best lies have a grain of truth to them.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 16 minutes ago

It's the main reason for the rise of the far right all across Europe.

Did Operation Gladio really contribute that much? Given the wave of not-quite-revolutions that hit Europe in the 60s I don't think I'd call the operation a success, and I'd say the decline from there is a self-inflicted affair with some Russian assists.

[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 1 points 35 minutes ago

I wouldn't go as far as to say main reason tbf. Russia is also actively dabbling in that and quite actively supporting parties in parliaments all over Europe

[–] JustJack23@slrpnk.net 13 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (4 children)

Because the Nazi ideology is no globalistic in the sense that Russians can think they are the "master race" and Ukrainians can think that they are the "master race".

That said, "fighting again Nazis" is just Russian propaganda.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

A lot of fascists are actually globalistic in the sense that they want to propagandise everyone to be isolationists, tribalistic and anti-democratic.

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