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French navy shoots at 5 drones buzzing nuclear submarine base, AFP reports (www.politico.eu)

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The incident follows a string of recent drone incursions in NATO airspace.

The French navy opened fire at drones that were detected over a highly-sensitive military site harboring French nuclear submarines, according to newswire Agence France-Presse.

Five drones were detected Thursday night over the submarine base of Île Longue, in Brittany, western France, a strategic military site home to ballistic missile submarines, the AFP reported, citing the the French_gendarmerie_, which is part of the military. The submarines harbored at the base carry nuclear weapons and are a key part of France's nuclear deterrent.

French navy troops in charge of protecting the base opened fire, the report said. It was unclear whether the drones were shot down.

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[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Most of the countries in the western world have spent so long not really being at risk of being at war that we really have no idea how to react to potentially actually being at war. We are so incredibly unprepared in such incredibly profound ways. Imagine being in a war and not having anti-air defenses around your most important strategic nuclear sites and having to rely on troops shooting at incoming aircraft with what I suspect were simply their service weapons, and almost certainly not even dedicated anti-drone weapons. Yes, drones are sort of new, that's not really an excuse. New things will happen during a war. You have to be able to react quickly to defend your critical assets at a moment's notice. The fact that we're still not doing that properly is a perfect demonstration of how far behind the curve we really are.

I hope this changes soon with the sprawling investments being directed towards defense budgets, but I remain unconvinced, will it just result in more hyper-capable, hyper-expensive techno-wonderweapons? It's the cheap, good-enough, high-supply things that are currently threatening us, and both history and the present seem to tell us it's usually the cheap, good enough, high-supply things that both win wars and enable effective defense. Spending money seems like it would imply seriousness, but I don't think we're actually taking this seriously enough, yet. When you really get serious about war and defense you need to be asking the real questions about what it's going to take to win, not just throwing money at the problem.

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe they're just sandbagging and waiting for the right moment to reveal our true defensive preparations, but I know a lot of people in various western militaries, and I honestly don't think so at all, and neither do they. If we are more prepared than we look, it's a pretty goddamn well-kept secret.

[–] Olap@lemmy.world 1 points 39 seconds ago

We are underprepared in the west for sure. But that's probably all right. One of the big points from WW1 was that large standing millitaries meant they needed to be used. Armies beget war as much as any other factor. This is why NATO is so important. The collective force of it means that we don't need to be as prepared. Which has seen unprecedented levels of peace in the west since its inception