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When Gallup surveyed who feels safe walking alone at night, China's 94% yes was notable. But the real story is buried in the demographics with men and women in China reported nearly identical levels. (news.gallup.com)

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[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

But the real story is buried in the demographics with men and women in China reported nearly identical levels.

I mean, if the average is 94% for all genders, then obviously there is very little room for disparity between genders on this.

The worst it can be for women is 88%, and only if men are an unrealistic 100%. Assuming men are at a more realistic 98%, that means at least 90% of women feel safe. It's great to see that the more detailed breakdown shows the real numbers are even closer than this.

That being said, if i'm reading it right, the map in the article seems to indicate that the gender gap in Germany for safety perception is zero, which sort of calls into doubt the reliability of the methodology they used. This is anecdotal of course, but i definitely know more women than men who are worried about walking alone at night.

Honestly what shocked me most was New Zealand's data. I guess that shows how little i know about the country, because it was my impression that it was a generally much safer and more progressive place than the US, UK or Australia.

[–] XiaCobolt@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean New Zealand has a right wing party in charge who are currently dismantling trans rights and want to throw out various treaties with made with the Maori people.

Like Australia sucks but NZ has had really good propaganda to make it seem like some kind of socdem paradise.

My guess is racism. Maori women be accurately worried about being victims of targeted racist violence. And more affluent white women being spuriously worried about Maori men as thugs and criminals.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 8 months ago

That makes sense. Thank you!

[–] Orcocracy@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This survey is not about whether a country has or does not have safe streets, nor does it offer any kind of definition of what safety means. In New Zealand, for example, there have been decades long-running public information campaigns about dangerous driving and road deaths. Might that be what some people have in mind when they consider whether a street is safe to walk at night? It’s certainly more likely than any thoughts involving guns, which is maybe what an American might have in mind when asked about whether a street is safe.

[–] sinovictorchan@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 8 months ago

The need to assess method of measurement and definition of terms is important when reading statistical reports. This is especially important to interpret data from Liberal politicians who often change the definition of words to dictate that all successful countries are Capitalists regardless of the policies and ideology of the successful countries. Fukuyama did mentioned that Liberals consider Nazi German to be Liberal and then later deny the Liberal affiliation.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

It’s certainly more likely than any thoughts involving guns, which is maybe what an American might have in mind when asked about whether a street is safe.

Well, i'm not American and i wasn't thinking about gun crime. It's perfectly possible to have a country with very few guns but still have a lot of crime and unsafe streets at night.

Maybe i misunderstood the question being asked in the survey, but why would unsafe driving conditions have an impact on whether you feel safe walking?

Presumably people don't go walking out in the street where the cars are driving.

[–] Orcocracy@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago

Remember, it’s not about whether there are or are not any guns around, or whether or not crossing the road is dangerous, or any actual potential chance of crime or anything else actually real. That’s not what a survey like this does. This survey is based on respondents perceptions about safety. People will be thinking of all sorts of things, much of it based on what they see in the news and on social media and so on, not on crime rates or pedestrian injury statistics or anything like that.

[–] Maeve1@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 8 months ago

Here, people will swerve or drive on sidewalks to kill people. Not to mention drivers under the influence of substances, diabetics without access to insulin, heart patients without access to meds, etc. We get the best of all possible scenarios!