Technology

AI has taken more things since it's big push to be adopted in the public sector.

Clean Air

Water

Fair electricity bills

Ram

GPUs

SSDs

Jobs

Other people's art and writing.

There are no benefit to this stuff. It is just grifting.

This bubble is going to become the entire market, isn't it. Until it becomes too big to fail because 80% of the workforce is tied up in it. Then it is allowed to pop, costing the western world everything, all going into the pockets of the super rich, and we get to start over.

AFAIK this has already been a problem, you can find Samsung M.2 SSDs for cheaper than Samsung SATA SSDs at the same capacity, because their cloud customers have all flown past classic SATA/SAS for NVME U.2 and U.3, which is much more similar to M.2 due to NVME.

I was planning on adding a big SSD array to my server which has a bunch of external 2.5 SAS slots, but it ended up being cheaper and faster to buy a 4 slot M.2 PCIe card and buy 4 M.2 drives instead.

Putting it on a x16 PCIe slot gives me 4 lanes per drive with bifurication, which gets me the advertised maximum possible speed on PCIe 4.

Whether or not the RAM surge will affect chip production capacity is the real issue. It seems all 3 OEMs could effectively reduce capacity for all other components after slugging billions of dollars into HBM RAM. It wouldn't just be SSDs, anything that relies on the same supply chain could be heavily affected.

I remember when 8TB SATA SSD was $350

My mind forgot that M.2 is probably more prevalent these days and that they’re not just shutting down for no reason.

Yet another chapter in the fucking AI craze started up by them fucking techbros.

Also, someone forgot that in some places in the world, people have to use older PCs with SATA drives. That, until their discontinuation announcements, Crucial and Samsung SATA drives were several tiers better than, say, those cheapo Ramsta drives.

Glad that I recently bought a bunch of storage so that I'll be covered for a good amount of time.

Can we just burst this damn AI bubble already?

Who needs computers anyways?

Just go outside and play with real people

The leak comes after another report detailed that Samsung has raised DDR5 memory prices by up to 60%.

MF.. And why they wind down SSD production this time? Last time was 2 years ago, because the SSD prices were low and they wanted to raise them (which happened).

Cries in PC gamer

I'm glad I already have a good setup and shouldn't be buying anything for a good while, but damn it. First the GPU, then RAM, now SSDs.

Aside: WTF are they using SSDs for?

LLM inference in the cloud is basically only done in VRAM. Rarely stale K/V cache is cached in RAM, but new attention architectures should minimize that. Large scale training, contrary to popular belief, is a pretty rare event most data centers and businesses are incapable of.

…So what do they do with so much flash storage!? Is it literally just FOMO server buying?

When I built a PC a couple of years ago when I really didn’t need one, then over specced it just because. I’m very happy right now as the prices are insane, feel like I could sell the PC for more than it cost me which mental.

What if we get a lack-of-new-computers-crisis before the AI-bubble bursts

The ai crash is going to slap the tech industry hard

I take issue with this forced distinction they are making

Micron, like Samsung and SK Hynix, already supplies memory chips directly to third-party brands such as G.Skill and ADATA. Even without Crucial-branded kits, Micron DRAM continues to reach consumers through other manufacturers, meaning overall supply remains largely unchanged.

Nobody ever officially suggested the Crucial supply was likely to shift to the other manufacturers for consumers. On the contrary people expect this to be a step towards a general redistribution of manufacturing capacity towards HBM for parallel compute products.

By comparison, Samsung exiting SATA SSDs removes an entire class of finished consumer products from one of the world’s largest NAND suppliers. Tom argues that this is why the Samsung move is “worse” for consumers: it directly affects how many drives are available, not just who sells them.

If you wanted you could make the same argument as for Micron. Who says the Samsung NAND couldn't be bought by other OEMs to make consumer SSDs. It's just as possible as the Micron supply shifting to other OEMs who make consumer RAM sticks.

To me neither are likely. The manufacturing capacity both companies are pulling from the consumer market in both cases is going to go to the higher profit margin parallel compute server market. Neither is worse than the other, they are both equally bad news for us consumers.

awesome! Thank you shitty ai.

So maybe that computer I just bought will be my last for a while then.

I have 4x 6TB HDDs in my NAS. Around 5 years ago I decided to simply replace any dead drives with 6TB ones instead of my previous strategy of slowly upgrading their size. I figured I could swap to 8TB 2.5" SATA SSDs that had just started to exist and would surely only get cheaper in the future...

Tbh its not a bad call. Used to work somewhere that bought hundreds of 500gb SATA SSDs for laptop upgrades that just... sat on a shelf, because none of the new laptops ordered could even take a SATA drive. Hell, they're Crucial branded so they're probably collectable if micron keeps crucial dead for long enough.