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Typeface of ‘wasteful’ diversity: Trump’s state department orders return to Times New Roman (www.theguardian.com)
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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (3 children)

In the IT world, there has always been jokes about holy wars between things like vi and emacs.

Given the assholes in this maladministration have now politicized fonts, I'm not so sure those kinds of things will remain jokes for very much longer. I see people lining up along political lines over things like Rust, FFS.

Apparently things like fonts can be "woke", along with something like a computer language (Rust).

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

To be fair, the rust organization goes out of their way to take political stances. No other meaningful programming language is managed by an organization as politically active as rust's. These fonts have absolutely 0 connection to politics though.

[–] a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

The connection is there if your political ideology is one of hate and violence.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

That's fair, I guess they do. They don't do themselves a lot of favors in that regard.

However, it seems a whole lot of people that rail against Rust seem to purposefully not tease apart the technical merits vs. the political aspects of Rust. Of course, Rust proponents seem to purposefully antagonize others with insisting on rewriting everything just because. The licensing concerns are real ones, of course.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

While there are plenty of other factors that got us here, one of the most prominent from my perspective is that the current slate of old people refuse to admit the world is moving on without them and are really resentful about it. So they are trying to drag everything into the past in an attempt to freeze time obstruct any change. If they weren’t causing so much pain they’d be laughably pathetic

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Ironically, Lil' Marco Rubio is younger than Antony Blinken, so...shrug? I'm thinking it's less about chronological age and more about....something else.

I've seen "JD" "Vance" and the likes of Charlie Kirk - both who are/were rather young - especially when it comes to politics - express some very regressive views - until this new round of throwbacks showed up, in fact, the generation I most associate with saying these kinds of things (out loud) was the Greatest Generation! - the generation that seemed to have a lot of racism simmering just below the surface and still chapped about the 60s.

I have to say that I'm rather apprehensive about what might be brewing in the coming years...I realize the Fourth Turning theory is considered debunked, but I still worry...

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There is still plenty but I’m not specifically talking about leadership. Just my experience with the older set of people in general. And most of the Greatest Gen are dead. Trump and Biden are Silents

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

My point about the Greatest Generation is that the kinds of things I would hear them saying (when they thought they were in a "safe space" anyway) back when I was much younger is stuff I never heard much of since, except to be mocked by people in my generation (Gen X) and by the boomers...until I started hearing some of the edgelords from much younger generations now saying it. And getting an audience for it.

It's almost like an echo...it's...actually kind of terrifying if I really think about it. I thought that kind of thing was mostly over/kinda fringe. It seems like some kinda zombie virus that is now spreading among the younger population. Even someone as atrocious as Rush had to dog whistle this stuff...the younger versions of him are just saying it out loud.

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

This has “green m&m” energy all over it. We truly live on the dumbest timeline with dumbest rulers imaginable. https://youtu.be/IT1HAiQy3Io

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Tucker got very upset that he didn't consider cartoon mascots of a candy to be bangable any more.

He probably completely lost his mind over this skit.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPpsI8mWKmg

[–] paper_moon@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sure sounds familiar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tannenberg_(typeface)

"Meyer's design for the typeface was inspired by Nazi ideology"

"The Tannenberg font soon became very popular and was widely used. It was used on official stamps, in book and magazine design, in advertising and in Nazi Party propaganda."

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

I would find it hilarious if people within government started setting their mail clients up to quote any Trumpian morons in Comic Sans, much like blogs like Pharyngula would do when responding to complete idiots like creationists, etc.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Gotta distract from economic failure and child rape somehow.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Isn't it even more "wasteful" to switch back, after going to all the trouble of switching the 1st time? Once the standard is set, it no longer costs you anything...unless you switch again.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I imagine some little dweeb in Project 2025 and/or Donvict's in-group was sitting there and seething over the initial change and vowed to do something if they had the chance.

That, or it's clear these assholes just want to put their fingerprint on everything, and that's really the motivation here. Every aspect of culture, every bit of bureaucracy, even. They want to pave over everything, most especially culture, and sit there and stew over the likes of Kimmel still having a platform and free speech. They rage that "woke" movies and TV are still being made and aired. So the fact that they want to dictate fonts doesn't come as a surprise, even if it's seemingly something so trivial and petty.

...but I doubt any of them care at all about anything being wasteful, regardless of what they say.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They should change it to DejaVu Sans cause we've been through this Nazi shit before

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I think it's just a primal scream aimed at extending a middle finger to anyone that may think of others, something the conservative mind views as weakness, and being "woke".

It's also most likely a lot about Marco's vanity - he and other cons are down for trying to erase everything that came before. It is much the same way they rail about "Obamacare" - because they tried to sink ACA by trying to tie Obama's name to it, they are now stuck with that name, and the actual policy is a lifeline for a lot of people (therefore, they LIKE it) they seek to destroy that as well. The Calibri font == Biden, and it might have helped people, therefore, it's bad, and we must restore what came before, because reasons. If this font change makes someone's life a little worse in the process, that's a bonus.

https://archive.is/mRwYa

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, they'd go full Pol Pot Year Zero if they thought they could get away with it.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 2 points 2 months ago

The Dark Ages never ended

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

I'm surprised they didn't try changing to Fraktur.