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Seems that the Swiss legislature may pass a law requiring ProtonVPN to start banning certain domains from being access by French users (mostly illegal sports streaming sites)

For those using ProtonVPN, is the writing on the wall?

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[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (32 children)

(mostly illegal sports streaming sites)

This doesn't accomplish what the legislature intends. It never does. For instance, in the US, Texas in all their wisdom that can't keep an electrical grid running smooth without duct tape and bailing wire, has decided to 'ban' PornHub. It makes all the christofascist's dicks hard because in their mind, they have rooted out evil and destroyed it. (See Satanic Panic in the 80s) However, their weak, little minds cannot comprehend the fact that for every technology, there exists an equal, yet undoing technology.

Do it for the children I hear them say, and I would agree in this example, that children should not be viewing porn. A better solution would be to make parents actually parent. You brought a service into your home that can be both highly detrimental and highly beneficial, and then you turn around give it all, including a cel phone, to a very inquisitive mind uninhibited, unmonitored, and uncontrolled in any manner. You're the problem, not porn.

/end soapbox

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'd say the problem is education. Porn is only an issue because people do not get proper sex ed. The reaction to seeing a dick sucked in front of a child shouldn't be shame, disgust, or terror but allowing the inquisitive mind to ask what is happening.

Sex is a completely normal occurrence that is the reason we are all here. There shouldn't be any shame or stigma in explaining to a child (or any person for that matter) what it is, what it involves, why it is done, how to safely do it, what consent is, why it is stigmatised.

Want to protect children? Educate them.

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[–] commander@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know if it's the same law but they've already said they'd move countries, anywhere with laws suitable for the service

[–] coconut@programming.dev 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Would they really though? Being in Switzerland is a huge part of their brand and marketing.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 48 points 1 week ago (7 children)

The only reason it's part of their branding because Switzerland is notoriously respectful of privacy. If they stop being that then that's no longer a selling point.

[–] pogodem0n@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I don't know how to answer that.

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[–] MajesticElevator@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] CapitalNumbers@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

As in why is a post about VPNs on a self-hosted forum?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Does anyone have thoughts on the IPv6 privacy extensions? They theoretically could help a lot with privacy

The idea is that your device has tons of temporary IP addresses that can be used for various tasks like surfing the web.

[–] melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago

All of your temporary privacy addresses will be coming out of the same subnet, so it's clear they all belong to the same people.

Ultimately the privacy extensions are just bringing IPv6's privacy back in line with IPv4, because without the privacy extensions every single device has a separate IPv6 address based on its MAC address whereas in IPv4 most consumer networks have every device sharing a single IP.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Every single one of those temporary IP addresses has the same prefix, which traces back to you.

Its about as anonymous as adding an apartment number to your own street address.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes and no. The deal is your last part is your MAC. So when your extension changes they can still track you over any ipv6 connection. The privacy extension changes the last bit so you can't be tracked over any connection.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

the whole point of privacy extensions is that it replaces the MAC with a random something. the address is totally unrelated to the MAC

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago

That assumes that the prefix is static which it isn't. It also assumes that you are the only one with that prefix which isn't necessarily the case. It makes it much harder to track compared to a static IP that is tied to your device.

If you are the only one using a static prefix then it is less useful but chances are that prefix is shared among lots of users and devices.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If anything just that it will break most tracking and surveillance systems that weren't built for the tiny proportion of ipv6 hosts.

The question is, how can get a few tens of thousands of completely random and unrelated ipv6 addresses and pick one at random for every connection I make to outside my LAN

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They are related but the prefix is shared unless you at some with your own router. (Even then your prefix probably isn't static)

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, I would like the whole address, from hour to hour, to have no correlation whatsoever, as many random numbers as possible.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

That probably isn't possible since routing on the public internet wouldn't work.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

My thought is that people who dont like this will stop using proton vpn.