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A Guardian investigation finds insurer quietly paid facilities that helped it gain Medicare enrollees and reduce hospitalizations. Whistleblowers allege harm to residents

UnitedHealth Group, the nation’s largest healthcare conglomerate, has secretly paid nursing homes thousands in bonuses to help slash hospital transfers for ailing residents – part of a series of cost-cutting tactics that has saved the company millions, but at times risked residents’ health, a Guardian investigation has found.

Those secret bonuses have been paid out as part of a UnitedHealth program that stations the company’s own medical teams in nursing homes and pushes them to cut care expenses for residents covered by the insurance giant.

In several cases identified by the Guardian, nursing home residents who needed immediate hospital care under the program failed to receive it, after interventions from UnitedHealth staffers. At least one lived with permanent brain damage following his delayed transfer, according to a confidential nursing home incident log, recordings and photo evidence.

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[–] socphoenix@midwest.social 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How exactly is this not considered murder for all parties involved in a decision like this?

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Because rich people, corporation and the state can kill as they like.

It’s only a crime for use plebs.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Because corporations are considered people for the rights, which allows them to vote in either VT or NH, but they aren't people for responsibilities, which is why TX hasn't executed one.

[–] Amberskin 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Luigi should get a medal and a statue.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago

grant him sainthood.

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The shot heard round the world part II. Luigi is a hero. At this point anyone working against him are criminals.

850 million medical claims are denied annually by insurance carriers. If even 10% of those are unjustly denied (likely a very low number), then that is 8.5 million people left hurt, suffering, or dead.

We called 11 million deaths a holocaust in WWII. WHAT THE FUCK DO WE CALL OVER 8 MILLION A YEAR? We need to get the "business" out of Healthcare. Luigi had the right of it.

Source showing 8 million deaths per year due to poor coverage/lack of coverage/denied claims:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6238021/

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 13 hours ago

We called 11 million deaths a holocaust in WWII. WHAT THE FUCK DO WE CALL OVER 8 MILLION A YEAR? We need to get the “business” out of Healthcare.

Capitalism.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago

UNITED health is one of the, if not the worst ONE OUT THERE.

The 3 Ds. Delay, die, don't care.

[–] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 137 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Thank you for sharing this, OP.

The horrors of privatized healthcare appear to be unending.

May UnitedHealth and other "healthcare" insurers get what they deserve.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 77 points 2 days ago (7 children)

One CEO got what he deserved.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 17 hours ago

witty and hemsely shouldve been in a meeting with "marios brother"

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[–] makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I remember when they were trying to pass the ACA Republicans were screeching about government "death panels" that would decide it wasn't worth it to keep you alive. Anyway, I'm glad nothing like that ever came to exist

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 17 hours ago

Also due to the gop interference, the ACA was heavily watered down.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Back in the 90s, my wife once briefly worked for the largest health care company in our state, working with a lawyer whose entire job was to go through the files of patients who had been diagnosed with chronic or expensive issues, and find a reason, any reason, to deny them. This lawyer was very, very good at her job, and routinely invented reasons to deny people the health care that they had been paying for over years, just when they needed the coverage the most. She was a one woman death panel, and she sentenced people to death, or suffering, every single day.

This started as a temp job, and every day my wife would come home feeling terrible about what this woman was doing, and supporting her efforts as her assistant. Then one day she came with the news that they had offered her a permanent position, which is why she was temping in the first place.

I've never seen anyone so unhappy about a job offer. I had a good job, and we didn't NEED the money, but it would be nice. She felt obligated to take this job, but it was clear her soul was highly conflicted. I had also been conflicted about this job, and told her that under no circumstances was she to accept it, and the relief on her face was obvious.

She ended up with a different job that fit her much better, and didn't require her to be a functionary in Corporate Serial Killing.

Years later, Sarah Palin started yammering about the "death panels" in ObamaCare, and I thought "the insurance companies already have death panels, why isn't anybody worried about that?"

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago

it does take a psychopath to work in a corporate job, all the way to being a CEO, OR BOD. thompson was allegedly operating this way before become the ceo of United health,.

[–] rhombus@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Years later, Sarah Palin started yammering about the "death panels" in ObamaCare, and I thought "the insurance companies already have death panels, why isn't anybody worried about that?

And not even death panels, just individuals who are not licensed to practice medicine who deny anyone and everyone they can make up a reason for. The merits are never considered, death is the default option.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

it takes the distraction off of the companies, when politicians are paid to do it, screech about it.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 56 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So when are we going to jail United execs and managers tgst signed off on this?

If I pay someone to delay another person's care that that other person gets brain damage, I'll go to jail for at least a decade. If I do it on an industrial scale, ill get a bonus.

A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic.

START JAILING NTHEDE FUCKERS! NOW!

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

jail? slaughterhouse

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[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 75 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fuck insurance companies. They're literally scamming grandmothers out of healthcare.

May they all live in interesting times.

[–] mpa92643@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Any market where choosing not to participate is simply not a viable option should be prohibited from being for-profit.

If all smartphone makers start getting too greedy and charge too much, people will just not upgrade their phones and the smartphone makers will have to lower their prices or justify their higher prices with innovations. People can choose not to participate in the market and pressure the entire industry to lower their prices or create new features to encourage participation.

If insurance starts getting (read: gets even more) greedy, cancelling your insurance isn't an option, especially if you're sick. Foregoing insurance means either dying or accumulating extraordinary medical debt you can never repay. There is no pressure on insurance companies to lower their prices because you will always have to pick one of them. As long as they all increase their prices together, they all benefit and their profit keeps going up. Their only "innovations" in the industry are to minimize payments for medical services and maximize how much they shove in their pockets.

For-profit health insurance should be illegal.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago

its already kinda happening, except for the cult fans. they saw little difference in between recent flagship phones to previous versions.

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[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Seeing a lot of removed by mod posts here, so let me test something (see next comment)

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 24 points 2 days ago (5 children)
  1. All current and pensioned government employees should have the same healthcare.

  2. No government employee should be allowed to pay for private insurance.

  3. No government employee should be allowed to pay cash for health care.

Three rules that have no direction towards private businesses (freedom!), that if applied, would ensure immediate care for all.

When a former president can't get treatment, the situation changes.

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[–] bloup@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Even if you’re the most naïve person in the world and willing to give unending benefit of the doubt, I’m not really sure how you can conclude that the late CEO wasn’t at the very least grossly negligent on an industrial scale.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This isn't negligent. There is no way that "i pay you for not transferring a person to a hospital that needs a hospital" isn't intent.

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