The comments of that tweet are nothing but "Signal is full of huge design flaws"
Right, because "add user to group" is a design flaw.
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If it's full of design flaws, they probably shouldn't be using it for military planning. It's sad to see the cult members grasping at straws to make this the fault of anyone but those incompetent buffoons.
I've heard a few people try and demonize Signal even before this goofy situation by claiming terrorists use it to plan attacks and I'm just sat over here like: yeah? Terrorists have also used youtube, Facebook, Twitter, discord and every other platform under the sun to organize and recruit to their groups.
And now there's this blunder (?) And somehow Signal is bad for the decisions other people make on the app? Which btw, I don't believe for a second that that was an accident. You will have to actually make an effort to add someone to a chat who doesn't belong there.
And I'm sorry, but I think the comment is pretty funny. I dunno. Maybe I'm just completely morally bankrupt or missing the bigger picture, but every negative thing I have heard people say about Signal is just bizarre. I genuinely don't understand what the issue is.
Need I remind anyone of how ISIS used Facebook and messenger in 2018 to post brutal execution videos of two scandinavian girls around Christmas and sending that shit to everyone on the girls' friends lists? As much as I hate Facebook I wouldn't dream of blaming them for some subhuman scum abusing their service for nefarious reasons.
I heard about a WoW clan leader in like 2005 or so who got interviewed by the FBI because some of his guild members used it to organize an attack. I think they threw grenades at an Army base or something.
Sure, there are plenty of great reasons to use Signal... like if you want your private messages you've sent linked back to you via a phone number. No tool intended for maximum security is going to require you to provide a phone number, which is incredibly difficult to acquire in the US without some form of KYC metadata. But sure if you've never read Moxie's blog to see he is obviously invested in Israel's agenda, then go ahead.
Tox is the most secure messager I know of. Next is Briar. I consider Signal to be on the same level as Telegram.
telegram has no usable form of e2ee (and what it does have is opt in only) so no, it is not on the same level as telegram. it is, in fact, ahead of it
I’ve never used Signal, so can’t speak to it’s quality, but the founder’s attitude is pretty funny
Very good these days! They've also been tested, all the gov gets are unix account creation date timestamps.
Was pretty buggy back in 2016 especially with embeds and video codec support between android and apple devices.
edit: There's also Molly-FOSS a signal fork on https://molly.im/ with more optional security features but the FOSS branch doesn't use google proprietary blobs/services. Great for GrapheneOS users especially.