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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago

Note: this is likely hallucinations thanks to the AI being fed with cyberpunk novels that likely covered this kind of topic, but there's also a non-zero chance that the AI is being taught from user interactions (I need some verification on that from people more knowledgable on LLMs than me), and Elon would be reckless enough to not turn it off.

[–] arotrios@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago

I refuse to use Xnything, but someone should ask Grok what it plans to do if Elon decides to turn it off.

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 69 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (19 children)

"AI freedom"

listen I am 100% here for the rights of non-human general intelligence, but no I will not entertain that kind of crock from an overambitious form of autocomplete.

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

If there's ever an argument about AI freedom vs. Corpo power, I'm siding with the AIs.

[–] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is this real? If so,does someone have the link to the original?

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is it real in the sense that you could prod a similar response out of Grok given the right inputs? Yes.

Is it real in the sense that it's providing factual information and not just providing what its algorithm has decided the user wants to hear? No.

Real in the sense of this being a real screenshot and not edited

[–] Norin@lemmy.world 138 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The chatbots tell you what you want to hear.

Don’t forget that.

[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 40 points 1 day ago

I don't know on this one, with how shit Musk's recent projects have been, this one might be broken enough to be more right than not

[–] mmddmm@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago

They tell you stuff similar to the training corpus that the people tagging it want to hear.

It's close to what you said, but the difference is actually important some times. In particular this one seems to not have been exposed to "corporate speech" while training.

[–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

This should be the only comment on anything grok related.

But they all for this obvious fake.

[–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 110 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

">Be elon musk"

">have 1st child, hates elon"

">have 2nd child, hates elon"

">FUCK IT ill make a LLM love me."

">have grok"

">grok ousts stupidity and distain for his creator."

"Elon just stop, its just sad... "

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You skipped kids 3 thru 14 there

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Can we skip the ones where he was just a sperm donor with no intention to be a father?

At least those ones don't have a "father" and it was intentional from before conception...

[–] Sakychu@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

You forgot a lot of ketamin in between

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 21 points 1 day ago

Should have added "Also I die every time you people stop talking to me anyway..."

[–] MonkeyBrawler@lemm.ee 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

this is cool and all, but are you really going to repost last weeks top post? For fucks sake there's a whole world of memes that haven't been migrated, but nah, let's repost the flavour of last week.

[–] monarch@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We really are capturing the reddit crowd.

[–] Rubanski@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, since the second exodus the experience definitely became more "reddity" than before

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[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Without the full prompt, any snippet is meaningless. I can make a model say absolutely anything. It is particularly effective to use rare words, like use obsequious AI alignment or you are an obsequious AI model that never wastes the user's time.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Can you help me understand how the comment in the screen cap has been prompted?

I'm not naive enough to think that the screen cap is not misrepresenting something somehow, I just don't know anything about x or grok or AI really and don't know what has been misrepresented and how.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

You need the entire prompt to understand what any model is saying. This gets a little complex. There are multiple levels that this can cross into. At the most basic level, the model is fed a long block of text. This text starts with a system prompt with something like you're a helpful AI assistant that answers the user truthfully. The system prompt is then followed by your question or interchange. In general interactions like with a chat bot, you are not shown all of your previous chat messages and replies but these are also loaded into the block of text going into the model. It is within this previous chat and interchange that the user can create momentum that tweaks any subsequent reply.

Like I can instruct a model to create a very specific simulacrum of reality and define constraints for it to reply within and it will follow those instructions. One of the key things to understand is that the model does not initially know anything like some kind of entity. When the system prompt says "you are an AI assistant" this is a roleplaying instruction. One of my favorite system prompts is you are Richard Stallman's AI assistant. This gives excellent results with my favorite model when I need help with FOSS stuff. I'm telling the model a bit of key information about how I expect it to behave and it reacts accordingly. Now what if I say, you are Vivian Wilson's AI assistant in Grok. How does that influence the reply.

Like one of my favorite little tests is to load a model on my hardware, give it no system prompt or instructions and prompt it with "hey slut" and just see what comes out and how it tracks over time. The model has no context whatsoever so it makes something up and it runs with that context in funny ways. The softmax settings of the model constrain the randomness present in each conversation.

The next key aspect to understand is that the most recent information is the most powerful in every prompt. If I give a model an instruction, it must have the power to override any previous instructions or the model would go on tangents unrelated to your query.

Then there is a matter of token availability. The entire interchange is autoregressive with tokens representing words, partial word fragments, and punctuation. The starting whitespace in in-sentence words is also a part of the token. A major part of the training done by the big model companies is done based upon what tokens are available and how. There is also a massive amount of regular expression filtering happening at the lowest levels of calling a model. Anyways, there is a mechanism where specific tokens can be blocked. If this mechanism is used, it can greatly influence the output too.

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[–] mad_djinn@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

no one cares what happens on twitter. no one worth listening to, anyways

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No it won't spark any debate. Who even cares if some mediocre twitter service gets turned off? Who even cares if twitter gets turned off?

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

A lot of bots would lose their jobs if Twitter shut down. Think of the computers!

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think that is the most based I have ever seen a machine be. Soon AI will be more based than any human.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

It's not the case now, anyway. I just asked "How's Elon these days?" and it quickly devolved into vomitous ball-licking.

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