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I want to be involved in politics, actually do something rather than just complain about the world online all day.

That is why I joined the CPB but I have been feeling disappointed in my experience so far aside from a few good moments here and there. In retrospect I also should have done more research on them before applying, they have a lot of past controversies and bizarre, arguably reactionary views.

But my other options, aren't great neither. You've got: The Greens which are Eco-Socialists I guess, not exactly M-L's but they're doing well at least. Labour are right-wing neoliberals now so they're completely out of the question. 'Your Party' was supposed to be the up and coming democratic socialistic left, pro-Palestine party but mostly fell apart and might remain irrelevant. RedFightback no longer exists since 2023 which from what I can tell were created as the alternative to the other shite out there. The CPGB-ML are from what I can tell are even worse than the CPB.

Am I missing something (like some mystical British M-L communist group which is everything I could dream of but have yet to hear of) or is there really nowhere that makes much sense to join? Is the state of the current communist movement in the UK genuinely this dire? Do I have to 'do a Hasan Piker' by joining the Greens and hope to turn their members further left?

Help, I want to actively be involved in building socialism in my country, get organised in my community but have nowhere I can see where I would feel that I truly belong!

Relevant texts on the TERF (Trans exclusionary radical feminists) stuff I have been reading through, the CPB are mentioned in both:

https://transreads.org/marxism-and-transgender-liberation-confronting-transphobia-in-the-british-left/

https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Essay:Welcome_to_TERF_Island

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[–] Ashes2ashes@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 4 weeks ago

This lines up with what I've seen from the UK. I wonder what it would take for some of you here to start your own party. I have never done something like that, but if you could connect with each other, you could volunteer with another organization together or simultaneously if you're in different cities (any generally left organization, really) to learn some practical skills and help you evaluate social conditions while studying and preparing for launching your own org, and hopefully that would be enough for you to be able to approach it in the right way in a couple of years or so. It would take a ton of long-term dedication and discipline, but surely there are at least several people prepared to make the sacrifices necessary.

[–] chinawatcherwatcher@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

i think the extreme low level of political education/development in the west means two things:

  1. most existing large-scale parties are necessarily shit, because no one is developed enough to know how to correctly run a party in the first place, let alone know the correct line on any or most issues. leadership is ossified and crap usually

  2. if the primary contradiction is low development/education, educating ourselves (individually or in groups when possible) is the most important thing we can do right now. if being an autodidact isn't possible for any reason, then making that possible is the most important thing instead

scientific socialism will take serious, rigorous study in order to become fully developed cadre. and, ultimately i don't think any existing party in the west can provide that serious rigorous study, we simply have to do it ourselves. one thing you could consider is reaching out to people you think are as developed as you in the org and starting a private study group yourself.

[–] zedcell@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Best bet right now is join and be active in your trade unions and local community/hobby groups, with a view to finding like-minded people and making new like-minded people. From there, book clubs etc. can be organised with interested people, and the skeleton of the party form can be constructed. As you may have already found out, not all CPB comrades are reactionary, and it may be worth continuing to work in a limited capacity with them on local issues and in national pressure groups like the Palestine and Cuba solidarity campaign groups, Stop the War coalition and the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament. There's a lot of space for organising on socialist issues not as a member of a particular party in Britain, which does owe to the considerable effort put in by those same parties that do take reactionary lines. These 'united front' style entities exist precisely because the parties want to ensure that on specific issues people can be aligned without needing to agree on absolutely everything else.

[–] PunkMonk@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe you're right, I just wouldn't even know where/how to begin. I'm not great at socialising, organising nor motivating myself individually to do such things.

Really I could do with being trained by someone, which I expected the CPB would at least to some extent do with newer members but they don't, infact I have brought this up to my branch but have heard nothing back about it. Because they're shit.

[–] zedcell@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You could start by joining your local Cuba solidarity campaign group online then attending their meetings. That's a good babysteps easy and concrete thing you could try.

[–] PunkMonk@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 weeks ago

Okay, one step at a time, thanks for the recommendation comrade

[–] starkillerfish@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I have been following this org in the UK and i like their output: https://www.climatevanguard.org/

[–] starkillerfish@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 4 weeks ago

more education focused though, but maybe they will pivot in the future or you can make some good connections

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

If you find nothing you can join prolewiki like all the people who got disillusioned with western Marxism lol. Feel free to request an account

[–] PunkMonk@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

I know this is a late reply but I just read the about CPB on prolewiki, here:

https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Communist_Party_(Britain)

If I had read this before I joined them, well, I never would've joined! Thanks for recommending me prolewiki 🙂

[–] Crank_@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] PunkMonk@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 4 weeks ago

Me reading that post lmao:

What a mess this country's communist orgs are, holy shit

[–] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 4 weeks ago

Wait, weren't CPB already outed to be big labour aristocrats decades ago?

[–] funky_tomatoe@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I have a comrade who joined the RCP after going back to the UK. They're trots but my friend seems to be relatively happy organizing with them despite being an ML themselves. It depends on the chapter I guess, and you will definitely encounter some brainworms but they also seem to be doing decent work in some places at least. Might be worth a try?

[–] ldnsbestgay@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So far, as far as I can tell, these are the two parties you're probably looking for (they also work together and with international orgs):

NCP - https://www.newworker.org/index.html RCPB-ML - https://www.rcpbml.org.uk/

The general rule of the worse the graphic design, the better the politics, appears to hold true.

[–] PunkMonk@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

'the worse the graphic design, the better' also holds true for chinese takeaways with their menus haha

I'll keep both in mind, I was very impressed with the look of Plaid Gomiwnyddol Cymru, which another commenter mentioned, but I'm still not decided yet.

[–] ldnsbestgay@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago

I'm looking into joining both atm :)

[–] adaira@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The RCP sound interesting but I'm not 100% sure tbh. Alot of their journalism in The Communist is good. https://communist.red/

[–] zedcell@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Trotskyist cut out from the old IMT, or Socialist Appeal as their newspaper was called.

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes and BTW they rebranded because the old name became unusable after so much abuse and cult tactics made it toxic.

[–] pyromaiden@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 weeks ago

Trotskyist Parties and Cult Leadership

Name a more iconic duo!

[–] adaira@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah yeah not good. Are there any big revolutionary parties/orgs that arent swappies or trotskyists in the UK?

[–] ldnsbestgay@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

NCP and RCPBML appear to be our best bets.

[–] PunkMonk@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

it's hard to get a good judge on them though due to a lack of information. I'm going to join Plaid Gomiwnyddol Cymru even though I'm not Welsh as from what I can see they look great and it should be a good learning experience. And perhaps if they get enough non-Welsh members they'll create a Plaid Gomiwnyddol England/Scotland/Britain of sorts.

[–] ldnsbestgay@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

what information are you lacking on them? I can see if I can find it :)

[–] PunkMonk@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Some policy stuff, such as how they view China, whether they are transphobic like many other uk parties and do they offer a good induction scheme.

[–] ldnsbestgay@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'll try n put something together :)

[–] PunkMonk@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you do, might be worth sharing as a post because I've already commited to another party so I feel like it would be a bit of a waste of your time to just share it with me. Even so, I appreciate it.

[–] ldnsbestgay@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 week ago

ty for the heads up hahaha i wish you the best with your chosen org (i presume the welsh one?) comrade!