CmdrShepard42

But I thought conservatives said COVID was all made up and a plot by the democrats to control the populace through mask-wearing?

Yeah especially considering the context here where the prior administration was engaging in the exact same dystopian activity.

So it means "democracy centralization?" That doesn't really sound like a good thing either.

Except for the fact that these leaders are incarcerated alongside the gang members and freely allowed to talk to them as per the agreement. There's no reason for them to jeopardize such a sweet gig to protect some strangers from the US. In fact they probably despise these people as they see them as traitors or potential rivals, so again why would they care?

All that aside, this is the same exact tactic Mexico tried with the cartels 15+ years ago, stop the killing and we'll be lax on enforcement, and it blew up in their face before long. The same will happen in El Salvador too.

The deal is specifically made with these gang leaders to give them special privileges, so what are you talking about that "Bukele isn't living up to" with regard to the treatment of US detainees? They're a completely separate group that have made no deal with Bukele because they're not El Salvadorian gang members.

Because this would be actual hard "evidence" of all the bullshit they're claiming much like the few cases where an illegal immigrant has killed a US citizen that they keep blasting about as if that represents the majority of immigrants.

It's dangerous because it's more than just the lies and rhetoric that they're currently pushing. Furthermore, I don't see this scenario playing out well for the people doing the shooting as they're just going to get murdered by ICE or the police once found and then it will be an easy justification for this corrupt administration to escalate and do the same to every other person they want to detain and ship out of the country. It's a surefire way to win a "battle" but lose the "war." More tactful approaches are needed at this time.

The other user responded with an actual quote about the situation and it only discusses special treatment for gang leaders like cellphones, prostitutes, and cash payments to gang leaders for their cooperation. This seems like a reasonable thing for these gangs to agree to because they're gaining all the benefits.

What still doesn't make sense is why these gangs would blow up this agreement just because some prisoners from the US are being killed or mistreated. It's not as if the leaders of some of the most violent gangs in the world are human rights advocates. It all just feels like disinformation from this user in order to con people here into complacency and thinking things aren't quite that bad for the people being illegally held there by the US.

Those gang leaders have direct and unmonitored access to the outside world so why would anyone need to question their treatment when they have the ability to tell everyone exactly how they are being treated? Again, why would they give two shits about how some dudes from the US are being treated when they're the ones enjoying all the privileges?

That quote is sparkly different from your summary. It states that gang leaders get special privileges like prostitutes and the ability to meet with their underlings in order to continue running the gang, along with government funding for the gang. What it doesn't say is that conditions for rank and file prisoners have improved, nor does it state that prisoner conditions have improved nationwide. The quote actually makes sense why they would agree to this, but your assertions here don't.

Do you really think some MS-13 gang leader is going to give up his only access to running the gang, cash payments from the government, and a steady stream of prostitutes because some prisoner from the US is being mistreated or killed? I find that pretty far-fetched.

This really reeks of disinformation in order to trick people into thinking things aren't so bad in CECOT and complacency in that there's some sort of safety valve that will automatically keep things from deteriorating into a straight up Nazi concentration camp.

Bukele made agreements with the leaders of all the major gangs in El Salvador to get them to reduce violent crime. In exchange he gave some money and concessions as to how prisoners would be treated. If it comes out that prisoners are dying in CECOT, the gangs are going to treat that as Bukele breaking their agreement and violent crime will shoot up.

This agreement makes no sense. Nobody ever leaves CECOT alive so what are these gangs supposedly gaining by agreeing to this?

Adaptive Lighting is pretty nice. You can set it to adjust the brightness and/or light temperature throughout the day and even setup a "nightlight" setting for overnight.

And Trump would use this to further fuel his "violent criminal terrorists" rhetoric.