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Just like Apartheid south Africa was multi-cultural, right?

All those ethnicities have equal legal rights, right? Including in the areas Israel is colonizing?

If I'm gay, can I get married in Israel?

Did the multiculturalism extend to the Gazan Jewish or Christian populations (you know, the Jewish ancestors of the people that DIDN'T leave in the diaspora)?

Did it extend to their places of worship?

Again, you're falling back to the literal last argument of literally every apartheid government everywhere: if we stop oppressing them, they'll kill us.

Do you think the ANC was a terrorist group?

Do you think they killed of all the British and Dutch ancestry people that were there?

Come on. At least try to be original in defense of the slaughter of mostly children.

EDIT: forgot to add that you need to stop anti-semitically equating the actions of a genocidal child murdering state, and a ethnicity/religion. Why do you keep doing that. It's antisemitic.

Stop being antisemitic.

We've had the capacity for feeding the entire population without animal products since before iron.

We've had the capacity to do so with an overabundance of calories that the population keeps growing larger since the Haber process was discovered.

Arguing that we should distinguish between animals and livestock until we can live without animal products is incredibly disingenuous.

Until A, no B doesn't work as an argument when you already have A.

Edit: I'm not the same person you were talking with before.

Your usage of the word tactical is appropriate.

Liberals always try to justify voting for literal genocidaires, over the left demanding something for their ever increasingly important vote, by couching their arguments in the vestments of logic and game theory.

You know, without a mathematical background.

And then they fucking butcher it because the argument they put fourth is from week one of a 101 entry level game theory class.

To put it another way:

You're tactically voting and losing the war when you need to be voting strategically.

That involves the left demanding things for their view, and the right that has stayed in power in the DNC, through cheating, giving some up.

Meanwhile, dumb people that like to feel smart justify demanding the left give up power for free while holding those in power to absolutely no accountability.

Always punching down.

Okay anti-semite.

I'm just going to explicitly call it the anti-Semitic trash as being such whenever that person equates Israel and Judaism.

Cuad does not wasn't to kill 7 million Jews. They wasn't institutions such as Columbia to stop investing in an apartheid genocidal state.

The freak out from the defenders of that genocidal state get more and more shrill as people recognize apartheid and genocide for what is.

Go peddle your genocide justification elsewhere. No one wants your anti-semitism here.

Found the Nazi!

You're going to continue to be infuriated and further isolated if you continue to argue in bad faith that the people that call for an end to an apartheid system are antisemitic..

EDIT: Moreover, when I see people mad at people criticizing apartheid ethno-states, it's generally because they are racist against brown people.

If I followed your logic you would be, by definition, racist. And I would be publicly justified in calling you a bigot for your defense of apartheid.

Kinda shitty, right?

Maybe you shouldn't do that?

If your evidence of anti-semitism is the phrase:

From the river to the Sea, Palestine will be free.

Then you're either delusional ( small chance ), or you're anti-semitically trying to link all Jewish people with a state that the largest humans rights organizations have labelled an apartheid state.

Why are you linking the actions of a state to a people? Are you trying to make those non-israeli Jewish people less safe by linking them to the actions of a genocidal apartheid state actively engaged in war crimes?

Why would you do such an antisemitic thing?

It means calling for a one party state with equal rights for all. You know, what non-racist people should want. Guessing from your bad faith lies about that statement, I'm guessing that isn't you, though.

One of the last arguments defenders of apartheid systems like to use is: 'we can't give them equal rights. Do you know what they'll do to us? They might do to us what we did to them.'

Last time I heard this argument was from defenders of Apartheid South Africa about the ANC. Whom they also declared were terrorists.

You know, that racist shithole country whose final ally was Israel?

Apartheid countries like to stick together, I guess.

EDIT:

Do you think apartheid South Africa should have fought to maintain apartheid like Rhodesia did?

Why or why not?

Were the ANC arguing to kill all white people in South Africa when they argued for an end to an apartheid state?

How is that different from Israel?

If you're not an intellectual coward, you'll answer these questions, even if only to yourself.

EDIT EDIT: Holy crap you're a human walking contradiction. Based on your comments you're a pro-union anti-racist that is pro deportation without judicial process. You're also transphobic and racist against Chinese people.

You have no consistency to your ideological beliefs, like, AT ALL.

This is the correct answer. So much better than mautrix and hostng a matrix server.

My friend moved there with her husband after grad school. They had two STEM PhDs.

They couldn't hack the whole 'isn't being normal weird enough' conformity thing.

Some States do not deserve criticism.

Some States deserve destruction.

The south in the US civil war: deserved to be destroyed.

Nazi Germany: deserved to be destroyed.

All apartheid ethno-states: deserve to be destroyed.

You don't like that last one? Explain to me why Rhodesia should exist.

It seems to me that people that think arguing for the destruction of apartheid ethnostates is wrong think that way because they are racist against brown people.

NoneOfUrBusiness is one of the most consistent anti genocide, anti apartheid voices in Lemmy.

Enough so that I recognize their username even without tags.

They're making a point here, and it isn't to justify Israels apartheid or genocide.