Ferrous

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[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

this isn’t a response to conditions. Because if it were the people voting for Trump should realize he is not now nor ever going to help them economically.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Just because a response to changing conditions is irrational doesn't mean it is not a response to changing conditions. It seems like you're arguing that Trump supporters give their support to Trump because they think he will ruin the economy, but that's obviously not the case. One of the Trump camp's main arguments is his economic aptitude (whether or not you believe that is complete bullshit). The undeniable reality is that Trump supporters truly believe he is going to save the economy even if you (perhaps rightly) think tariffs are going to cause massive damage.

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The liberal framework cannot explain why millions of people support Trump because it refuses to acknowledge that capitalism itself generates such movements.

This is why we see liberals using increasingly mystical language (cult). Liberals reduce the Trump phenomenon to irrational devotion to a demagogue, framing it as a psychological or cultural pathology rather than a political response to material conditions. This obscures the fact that Trump's base is not a brainwashed sect but a coalition of reactionary class forces—primarily the petty bourgeoisie, sections of the labor aristocracy, and segments of the bourgeoisie itself—whose interests align with right-wing populism in the face of capitalist crisis.

By calling it a "cult," liberals dismiss the genuine (if misguided) grievances of workers who have been destroyed by neoliberalism.

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

This is the logical conclusion to "vote blue no matter who".

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Lot of boomer-like fist shaking in these comments.

Newer generations are going to find different things to excel at, and they'll inevitably give up on some of the old ways.

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And what would keep conservatism from sprouting once again in this scenario?

Conservatism is not the issue; the issue is capitalism. Put the capitalists against the wall.

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

What makes you say that? It has went over perfectly well for the Trump team, and it was honestly a huge success for them in legitimizing this push for supreme executive power.

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can anyone else think of another state whose constitution explicitly enshrines the right to enslave people?

[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

Can't wait till I'm hunkered in my basement with a shotgun and my last cans of food, all to see a mouse run by and realize I just got infected.

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