Nightwingdragon

These protests need to start happening outside of these reps' offices.

The good thing is that at least this judge's order comes with a definitive timeline.

Unfortunately, that's the only piece of good news. There was no "or else", and the Trump administration has already claimed they couldn't follow the order even if they wanted to because he's out of the reach of US authority.

Which means that most likely, Monday will come and go and this guy will still be in El Salvador. The judge will do a lot of hemming and hawing and follow standard judicial practices of threatening to hold hearings to discuss the possibility of holding hearings, and eventually the whole thing will quietly disappear from the headlines once a MAGA-aligned appeals court dismisses it due to the claimed lack of jurisdiction.

And we do have to be realistic. Bukele (President of El Salvador) has every reason in the world to cozy up to Trump. And he really could put an end to this saga by saying that Garcia is facing charges in El Salvador and will not be sent back to the US. There may be made-up charges, there may not. He could just say that Garcia is being charged just to run cover for Trump so Trump can say "I tried, but Bukele confirmed that he is an MS 13 member being tried in El Salvador and will not release him.". And at that point, I honestly could see a judge dismissing the case simply because it's moot and any order would be unenforceable.

Overall, I'm not liking the man's chances.

With all of that being said, how has not one reporter asked the question of "If this type of 'error' were made involving a US citizen being sent to El Salvador, are you also saying that there is no way to get that US citizen back?"

Silence doesnt mean secrecy. We the People should be loud. These law firms should shut up and draft plans.

Actually, I believe it's the exact opposite. We the people do not have the power and resources to be loud. We the people can easily be disappeared to El Salvador's prison system. We the people elected our officials and gave them the power to be loud. And when they fail -- and they have failed -- we should hope that our representatives in the legal system, who have years of knowledge, billions of dollars and vast resources to use those resources to fight back. We the people being the ones that have to resort to revolting should be the last option after everything else has been exhausted, not the first. These people have unlimited resources, billions of dollars, and vast swaths of legal knowledge. Not us.

Law firms should have had motions filed before the ink to sign the EOs targeting them was even dry. But instead, they're going to Trump and offering him hundreds of millions of free legal services before he even targets them. They're not fighting Trump. They're tripping over each other in a race to see which ones can capitulate to him first.

They shouldn’t broadcast their intentions to the regime, let the filings do that.

Bullshit. 100% Grade A, Trump-approved bullshit.

Their intentions should be one thing. Defending our justice system against these exact acts. And they should be broadcasting those intentions on every form of media that exists, daily. "We intend to fight you in court through this and force our court system to either admitting their intentions of ceding even more power to Trump and letting this country fall into a dictatorship by allowing Trump to continue doing this, or standing up for the Constitution and the rule of law."

They should be broadcasting that daily.

That's not a "secret plan". That's doing what they should have done the minute these EOs were signed.

Ah yes, their super-secret plans to......sue. In a rigged court system. That ultimately leads to a Supreme Court that has already declared Trump a king in all but name with almost unchecked power.

I'm sure we'll hear a lot about that in the future. And by "a lot", I mean nothing.

If you think that a comparative handful of volunteers with some self-supplied weaponry has any chance of going up against the US Marshalls, I've got beachfront property on Mars you may be interested in. These people would be rounded up and disappeared to El Salvador by dinner. What you're saying sounds like a great inspirational speech leading into the final act of a movie plot, but it's leading lambs to the slaughter in reality.

And that's assuming you can even find enough volunteers. For the past couple of months, all these people that said they would be the ones to stand up and fight Trump and his power grabs end up being the first ones to capitulate in hopes of not being shipped off to some black site in El Salvador.

Who's Boasburg going to hold in contempt? Trump? He's already been declared immune. Bondi? Yeah, good luck with that. Now let's see him round up a couple of hundred volunteers and send them to DC to arrest her. What exactly do you think the end result of that is going to be? A bunch of volunteers with zero experience and who are just hoping to make it home tonight are going to be told by US Marshalls that outnumber them, have better weapons, more training, and body armor are going to tell them to go fuck themselves with a chainsaw. They absolutely will not have the ability to physically enforce Boasburg's decision.

Yeah, and after 30 or 40 more hearings, he might consider threatening to possibly hold hearings to consider the possibility of maybe sending Trump a frowny face letter if he violates court orders another few dozen times.

Notice how not a single one of these judges is actually seriously threatening consequences. Because they know they have no enforcement power. They know that Trump's response is going to be some variant of "What the fuck you gonna do about it if I don't?". They know they have zero actual answers for that, and they know exactly what it means when they are unable to answer.

They're just stringing things along holding on to the illusion of power and hoping that people simply don't notice that they hold no real power.

Here's a list of what the firms are doing about it:

• Capitulation

The only thing I can figure is that a lot of news organizations think if they suck up to Trump now, then when he consolidates power he’ll kill them last. Which, in contrast, seems like a terrible bet.

This is exactly what's going on. It's been the same since 2016. People continue to play Trump's games by Trump's rules and wonder why they lose. They all gave him mainstream media coverage while complaining about all the free mainstream media coverage he generates with his antics. The vast majority of his inner circle from his first administration have ended up in disgrace, bankrupted, and/or in jail, and there's an endless stream of suck-up-wannabes lining up waiting for their turn, thinking that it won't happen to them. How many times have we seen people, organizations, and now even countries capitulate to Trump only for him to change his mind, renege on whatever agreements are in place, and do what he was going to do anyway because fuck you that's why?

And they keep playing the same game. They keep capitulating to Trump on Trump's terms, and he ends up shitting on them anyway.

And they keep lining up for more, because this time it will be different. This Time, Lucy won't pull the football away and laugh at me as I land flat on my ass. Nobody seems to be learning the lesson that Capitulation. Does. Not. Work.

The people complaining are literally the only people with the power to actually do something about it.

All of this could end tomorrow.

I will guarantee you can get all Democrats on board with a bill that reclaims the power of levying tariffs as outlined in Article 1 of the Constitution. Reclaim the powers and nullify all tariffs that have been imposed by Trump since his inauguration. Even half of Republicans and all Democrats would be enough to cover the 2/3 in the Senate needed to override a Trump veto.

That's it. That's all it would take and this whole thing would be over. But anyone in the GOP that is complaining about these tariffs while holding the power to actually do something about it isn't actually complaining. It's performance art. Don't listen to what they say, look at how they vote. If they're saying they're against it while voting in favor of it, they're lying to you.

And these people are all lying to you. They will vote in lockstep when push comes to shove.

TL;DR version: SCOTUS just said that Trump can just refuse to spend money already allotted by Congress. Because Trump needed more power. By extension, this also means that budgets passed by Congress are now just mere suggestions that Trump can ignore.

Let's see:

1. Judge is a woman
2. Is an Obama appointee
3. From a blue state
4. Has no enforcement mechanism
5. is ordering someone with all-but-total immunity
6. is ordering someone who has already ignored or defied multiple court orders with total impunity

I'm sure Trump will get right on this one.....

And that doesn't even take into consideration the claims that the Trump administration has made saying they have no method of getting these people back even if mistakes are made. Now that of course is scary for about 8,268,458 other reasons, and could also be made up BS. But I would not be the least bit surprised if he was right, and the deal is just to ship them to El Salvador and let them get lost in the system. You think some El Salvador authorities are going to even try finding him in a sea of 80,000 or so other prisoners who will all claim to be him if it means getting the fuck out of there? And that's assuming he's even still alive.