Quicky

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[โ€“] Quicky@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Except they don't use the space well do they, as you've said. Toolbars, menus, status bars, task bars etc all reside horizontally.

Most widescreen monitors in offices allow you to put two documents next to each other, but still don't let you see the whole page and remain readable. There's no question that a taller monitor wouldn't solve that, because as you've said earlier, why not rotate your screen?

I wouldn't have to if it was taller ๐Ÿ˜‚

[โ€“] Quicky@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This makes no sense at all. UIs are justified in not making full use of a widescreen monitor because at some point someone might want to use another at the same time?

[โ€“] Quicky@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No I'm not upset by anything ๐Ÿ˜‚

It sounds like you're excusing poor UI design by saying "just use the extra space for something else"

If only those apps displayed even less content horizontally, we could get even more of them on the screen and be yet more productive, right!? ๐Ÿ˜‚

[โ€“] Quicky@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

As mentioned, this doesn't solve the problem of apps not utilising the available space efficiently. "Just open another app" isn't a solution to "Why doesn't the app I'm working on appropriately use the available space".

[โ€“] Quicky@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I think you might be missing the point though.

Not everyone needs to multitask in two apps simultaneously. In fact most of the time, most workers are only going to be working on a single application. If that application isn't making full use of the widescreen, then saying "just fill that space with another app" doesn't solve anything. In fact if anything, it potentially reduces the real estate the main app had.

Yes they now have two apps open, but they're still only working on one. They don't "need" the other one, so why not design the primary app or web page to more appropriately scale to the display?

It's got absolutely fuck all to do with "what can the user do to better utilise the technology" and everything to do with UI design.

[โ€“] Quicky@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

This is an unnecessarily patronising response.

Your answer to apps not utilising left and right space efficiently is "well you should do something else then". It's not the user's fault.

[โ€“] Quicky@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Edit: Deleting this comment because I'm an idiot.

[โ€“] Quicky@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Can't imagine there are too many traditional offices with 40" 6k screens.

As I say, I think it's unfair to blame users for "not using the screen properly" when most office software is set up for portrait, while the screens are horizontal. Yes you can use multiple windows (assuming your widescreen display is big enough to allow productive working with two smaller windows), or multiple screens, or rotate them etc, but they feel like workarounds to get around the fact that the applications work naturally in portrait, and most laptop screens for example don't easily accommodate any of those options. Which is probably why you see more 3:2 laptop displays than standalone monitors.

[โ€“] Quicky@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

I don't think widescreens exist "primarily for additional tasks in an office setting". I think they're the default because, as another user said, TVs were that ratio.

It's weird that it's fine for widescreens to have additional areas to the sides that aren't used by many apps, but adding space vertically that would automatically be used by every office application isn't fine.

Yes you can use two apps side by side, yes you can rotate your screen, but the software in general literally defaults to reducing that available space by putting the taskbar and menus where they are, while usually being full screen screen by default.

Saying "You're using it wrong" is blaming the user for using the computer the way it was presented out of the box.

[โ€“] Quicky@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Genius.

Essentially if you want to use a monitor horizontally that's fine, if you want to rotate it vertically that's also fine, if you want to have equal horizontal and vertical real estate you're out of your mind.

[โ€“] Quicky@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

we use the width more than the height.

Tell that to my scrolling finger.

[โ€“] Quicky@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Not if the square monitor is the same width as the widescreen though.

 

Almost all business applications have horizontal menus and ribbons that take up a decent percentage of a landscape monitor instead of utilising the "spare" screen space on the left or right, and a taskbar usually sits at the bottom or top of the screen eating up even more space (yes I know this can be changed but it's not the default).

Documents are traditionally printed/read in portrait which is reflected on digital documents.

Programmers often rotate their screens to be portrait in order to see more of the code.

Most web pages rarely seem to make use of horizontal real estate, and scrolling is almost universally vertical. Even phones are utilised in portrait for the vast majority of time, and many web pages are designed for mobile first.

Beyond media consumption and production, it feels like the most commonly used workplace productivity apps are less useful in landscape mode. So why aren't more office-based computer screens giant squares instead of horizontal rectangles?

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