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[–] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

But I’m one of the few privileged users who can build from source.

There are avenues available for less-privileged users to obtain builds of free software projects (e.g. GNU/Linux distributions, F-Droid, and so on).

[–] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yeah I feel like this is the one instance of applying EULA's to free software projects that I don't disagree with on principle, because the source code remains free software (unlike FUTO, Commons Clause, and so on). For another example, Mozilla applies an EULA to Firefox binaries and still releases the source code under a free license, which is an overall good to the free software movement.

Maintainership of a free software project can be very taxing so it's refreshing to see attempts to address that that aren't intrinsically at odds with the free software movement. Remember that users of free software have no entitlement to anything other than source code. There is no requirement in any free software license that a project have maintainers, take bug reports, accept pull requests, offer support, etc.

Also remember there are avenues to obtain third party builds of free software projects (e.g. GNU/Linux distros, F-Droid, etc) and those third parties should be able to take up the support burden for their user communities.

Edit: From their faq, this is the most concerning thing to me:

Also, if you choose to not pay the Maintenance Fee, but find yourself returning to check on the status of issues or review answers to questions others ask, you are still using the project and need to pay the Maintenance Fee.

This seems like an over-reach. Limiting participation in communities to fee-payers is understandable but attempting to restrict people from even reading in these communities is a bit too far (and I am not even sure if it can be enforced, but I am not a lawyer).

[–] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

People buy copies of proprietary software and then share them for free.

[–] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Freeware

Please don't use the term “freeware” as a synonym for “free software.” The term “freeware” was used often in the 1980s for programs released only as executables, with source code not available. Today it has no particular agreed-on definition.

There is a misunderstanding that the free in free software or FOSS refers to price (and is hence a synonym of freeware). https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/floss-and-foss.html

Others use the term “FOSS,” which stands for “Free and Open Source Software.” This is meant to mean the same thing as “FLOSS,” but it is less clear, since it fails to explain that “free” refers to freedom.

[–] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Different senses of "free." "Free software" refers to freedom, not price. "Freeware" refers to price, not freedom.

"Freeware" typically has the connotation of being proprietary but it doesn't have to be. Most people call actual free software "free software," "FOSS," or "open source." I think this is a side effect of proprietary being the assumed default.

There is a misunderstanding that "FOSS" means it is freeware and open source. You can see that misunderstanding even in this thread.

[–] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

FOSS is always Freeware

"Free software" refers to freedom, not price. It's possible for free-as-in-freedom software to be sold.

"Freeware" is always about price, not freedom.

[–] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone 5 points 3 weeks ago

"Free" in free software refers to freedoms, not price.

"Free" in "freeware" refers to price, not freedom.

The two are not at all synonymous although typically most free software is also freeware.

[–] beyond@linkage.ds8.zone -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah I am unconvinced of this line of thought. If I use (say) Kate Editor to edit a document, do the developers of Kate need a license to the content of that document in order to save it to my desktop? Since the text content is stored in a Qt widget does Qt also need such a license? Linux itself carries the data from the application to the disk, do the Linux developers (all of them?) also need a license?

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