But if they are indeed right, and that fire they have about it is used to defend their point-of-view until it’s been so scrutinised and counter-argued that either it has been shown to be incorrect, or no counter could undo the initial argument, is that not progress?
Lemmy is not academy. This is a web forum, most of us are not here to do formal science.
Guess what, most if not all veggies and vegans are also doing something morally dubious at best.
Factory farming, extensive farming, they’re all bad for the soil, bad for native wildlife, bad for native plants. The societal impacts of factory farming are also not small. In the end, the moral lines people draw are mostly at different places, neither is undoubtedly better than the other.
As it currently stands, the morally correct option for food production would probably be for a large amount of the population to starve. That, of course, is also not entirely morally correct.
Disclaimer: I am personally omnivorous. I have a son and many other relatives and friends who are or were vegetarians or vegans. I love a lot of veggie food and used to frequent vegan restaurants, so I have absolutely zero qualms with it.
I have personally tried to give up meat twice, once for 6 months and once for a year. On both cases my health suffered massively for it, and I went back to eating meat. I had a cousin who was, for many years, a hardcore vegetarian. She was also of the opinion that eating meat was wrong. A few years ago she reintroduced fish in her diet to overcome health issues after fighting them for years. Most symptoms subsided in a handful of months. I believe she now also eats beef, although infrequently and in small quantities.
I’m sorry to be that guy but reality is more complex than whatever moral line any one of us would like to draw. You’re not wrong but it would behoove you to acquire some nuance on your thoughts.
It’s not just that. I’m a techie. I’ve been in the industry for decades. I know my way around computer very well.
I want to like Jellyfin and I want to ditch Plex (even though I have a lifetime license) because of what it has become and where it’s headed.
That said, the other day my Plex server had some issues that took me a while to figure out. Since when it failed I just wanted to watch an episode of a series and relax, I once again fired up the JF client. I couldn’t get seek to work, I had to manually find and download subtitles (that’s not always the case but when it is, it’s pretty annoying), and ultimately I couldn’t watch my series at all as playback would randomly stop, the player would close and I’d be back at the menu, without the position having been recorded and with no way to fast-forward as seek didn’t work at all.
I ended up spending 15min figuring out what was wrong and fixing Plex, then watched my series undisturbed.
Like I said, I want to drop Plex for JF, but in the 3 years or so that I’ve been running both, every time I fire up JF I end up running back to Plex as I just want to sit back and watch a bloody series or movie.
I think that’s just people. Lemmy just happens to be one of the forums where that’s observed.