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[–] dengtav@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

+1 that question, I've also never installed/used OpenCloud, simply because I didn't see the benefit of it until now.

Based on the comments given so far, I have some hope that over time, the Go-approach could give us a more resource saving, but feature full alternative to tangle with, so I will stay tuned :)

For now I will stick to Nextcloud, because it gives me all the features I need and the maintanance, at least for the couple-hundred-user-instances I maintain, is not that bad, as I often read around the web :) But I also can understand, that people wish to have less maintenance struggles and therefor try sth else, wich is good for me, so I can hope for more experience reports in the near future :p

 

If you have to choose between using an App Image, from the developpers official site or an AUR package (or apt e.g), what do you choose?

[–] dengtav@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 days ago

Then, only the vpn provider would see the very same traffic, the ISP would see without vpn.

The ISP would just see your connection to the vpn provider.

The sites themselve would just see the vpn ip.

So it's not the question about whether anyone sees the traffic, but who.

Only Tor would hide this traffic in a sense.

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submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by dengtav@lemmy.ml to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
 

As Nextcloud advanced with progresses making it competitive in fully integrated government and corporate workflows, OpenCloud is getting more and more attention.

The fact, that both are collaborative cloud plattforms, designed to be selfhosted and mainly developed in/around Berlin from FOSS-Community-Surroundings, makes one ask about the differences.

The main difference I see, is the software stack

  • Nextcloud, as a fork of ownCloud, kept the PHP code base and is still mainly developing in PHP
  • OpenCloud, also a fork of ownCloud, did a complete rewrite in Go

Until know, Nextcloud is far more feature complete (yes I know, people complain, they should fix more bugs instead of bringing new features) than OpenCloud, if we compair it with comercial cometitors like MS Teams.

I like Nextcloud!

I deploy it for various groups, teams, associations, when ever they need something where they want to have fileshare, calendar, contacts and tasks in one place. Almost every time, when I show them the functionality of Nextcloud Groups an the sharing-possibilities, people are thrilled about it, because they didn't expect such a feature rich tool. Although I sometimes wish it would be more performant and easier to maintain, so non-tech-people could care for their hosting themselves.

Why OpenCloud?

Now, with OpenCloud, I am asking my self, why not just contribute to the existing colab-cloud project Nextcloud. Why do your own thing?

Questions

So here I expect the Go as a somewhat game-changer (?). As you may have noticed, that I am not a developer or programmer, so maybe there are obvious advantages of that.

  • Will OpenCloud, at some point, outreach Nextclouds feature completeness and performance, thanks to a more modern approach with Go?
  • Will Nextcloud with their huge php stack run into problems in the future, because they cant compete with more modern architectures?
  • If you would have to deploy a selfhosted cloud environment for a ~500 people organization lasting long term: Would you stick to the goo old working php stack or see possible advantages in the future of the OpenCloud approach?

Thanks :)

[–] dengtav@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yes, sorry for missunderstanding !

[–] dengtav@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Ok, typing in the password but not seeing any characters (like * e.g.) is quite common. It prevents shoulder surfers from seeing the acual length of you password.

That means, that its still possible, that you keyboard is actually working there.

Are you using a layout different from US-ANSI ? Sometimes devices fall back to US layout during boot, which would lead to you typing in a "wrong" password, without noticing it. Especially special characters have different keys on different layouts. On german layout e.g. "y" and "z" are "swapped".

[–] dengtav@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Just partly related, and probably no help here - but about the fact, that you can't type in that password (regardless whether you can remember it or not):

you probably use a bluetooth keyboard on that surface? Before boot is finished, bluetooth connection is not possible, so you need some sort of USB/serial keyboard to even type.

Had this issue when full disk encrypting a surface, because without usb (or the original serial) keyboard your stuck in the luks mount process during boot...