thetentacle

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[–] thetentacle@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Hypocrisy or contradictions are not an obstacle for fascism, at all. Quite the opposite! So yes they want you to know they cheated, and that they outsmarted you that way, because you were too dumb to stop them, it's not something that they want to hide, it's a powermove. As in I can cheat and you can't do anything about it even if you tried.

Here is a literal quote:

"Wenn unsere Gegner sagen: Ja, wir haben Euch doch früher die […] Freiheit der Meinung zugebilligt – –, ja, Ihr uns, das ist doch kein Beweis, daß wir das Euch auch tuen sollen! […] Daß Ihr das uns gegeben habt, – das ist ja ein Beweis dafür, wie dumm Ihr seid!" - Rede vom 4. Dezember 1935, zitiert nach Helmut Heiber (Hrsg.), Goebbels-Reden, Band 1, Droste, Düsseldorf 1971,

translation: "When our opponents say: 'Yes, we did grant you the […] freedom of opinion earlier – –', well, the fact that you granted it to us is certainly no proof that we should do the same for you! […] That you gave it to us – that is precisely proof of how stupid you are!"

[–] thetentacle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And this is how those in power stay in power.

what do you mean?

[–] thetentacle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You should get heaps of money getting thrown at you when you fix it forever for everyone but you don't. And therein lies the problem. A look over open source software makes this very obvious.

[–] thetentacle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I don't know how you solve excessive waste, it's maybe a problem of population density more than failing society. If you live on a plot of land in your own home you can exist without producing more garbage than you can process away on your own. So while yes you can't realistically just tune down society, it's naive. It's not true that people can't exist in a self sustained way as the basis for a thought experiment.

It's not that garbage or infrastructure repair aren't problems that need to be dealt with, they now are. Or that you never have to do anything you don't want to do, even self sustained you have to. I'm saying that you would need to solve them upstream at the source where they are not menial but interesting like the pictures in the meme.

[–] thetentacle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

People are obsessed with solving problems. But you don't solve the garbage problem by manually hauling it forever in perpetuation. That's what you have to do when you can force people to labor for minimum wage and skim the rest.

If nobody wants to haul garbage then people would experiment and look for a solution. Like mentioned already, one solution is to enslave peopel to do it for you, yes. But it could also be a tree hugger like livestyle, not for everyone. But it could also be something we havent thought of yet. People would find solutions in their comunities, and working solutions would scale up. All wishful thinking obviously. I would love to experiment with solutions that produce less garbage, measure it, optimize etc.

[–] thetentacle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The right answer is to deconstruct the argument logically and educate, of course. But I think it has to be added that the hypocrisy is intentional and is not stupidity and to understand the argument behind the facade you have to understand us politics. Which is all about manipulating the voter turnout. Imigrants will, once naturalized, vote against republicans, so they are oppressed. Same with women, high education, and so on. These are all just traits that let you select people who'd vote against you.

For example abortion, women who would consider aborition will statistically vote against republicans, so republicans rally around that and demonize abortion to make the women move away or stay away. Or as you mentioned transgender people, yes they can't move to republican states, that's the point!

It's always about supressing the people who statistically vote against you. In this case poor people vote against you, so you argue that poor people should leave the state or the country to dillute or strategically shift the voting opposition.

[–] thetentacle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

you don't need profits anymore when you have robotic slaves. you need profits to pay people to do the work you want to be done for you. if you have robots doing everything to keep a large estate running for you with all necessities and complete automation, what do you need more humans or profit for? If you need a door replaced you send a robot to make a new one, you don't need a complete carpentry industry.

[–] thetentacle@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They have apparently succeeded in poisoning the meaning of the term.

[–] thetentacle@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

It would seem the common problem in any political system is always authoritarianism? Is there historical case where a king or similar actually helped the people that I can study more?

[–] thetentacle@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If you know what a ice sculpture of a human looks like and you know what an ice sculputre of a swan looks like you can maybe infer what an "ice sculpture of a flying crocodile with wings" might look like too, by combining what you already know. It's as much incorrect as your imagination, no?

[–] thetentacle@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Thats like salting then bleaching the plants in your garden because butterflies disturb you. You can do it to show how powerful you are but you're really doing more damage to yourself.

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