▲ 512 ▼ Amsterdam server seized at request of U.S. authorities after “far left” allegations (nltimes.nl) submitted 5 days ago by Forsho@sh.itjust.works to c/technology@lemmy.world 91 comments fedilink hide all child comments Cosplaying to be anti “American Tech”, then kissing the empire hand for blessing. This is called “neoliberal euro syndrome”.
[–] trojanbark@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (7 children) you're confusing actual leftists with MLs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] belochka@lemmy.world 1 point 3 days ago (6 children) MLs are leftists, don't even try to pretend they are not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago (2 children) "You're confusing actual leftists with the most successful tradition of Leftist political thought, which is highly diverse and continues to guide multiple States and movements today" This is how these people sound. Obviously there are lots of things we can and should criticise about various ML projects. But this knee-jerk dismissal of an entire terrain of leftist thought, along with a general fetishization of failure, and refusal to engage with the complexities of governance, is intellectually lazy and unbecoming of "real leftists". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trojanbark@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (1 child) Agree to disagree permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago How very compelling permalink fedilink source parent [–] trojanbark@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (2 children) I mean, I believe that you believe that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] criscodisco@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 child) What do you think they are? Try to use more than 5 words in your explanation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] trojanbark@lemmy.world 1 point 2 days ago red red red red fash permalink fedilink source parent
[–] belochka@lemmy.world 1 point 3 days ago (6 children) MLs are leftists, don't even try to pretend they are not. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago (2 children) "You're confusing actual leftists with the most successful tradition of Leftist political thought, which is highly diverse and continues to guide multiple States and movements today" This is how these people sound. Obviously there are lots of things we can and should criticise about various ML projects. But this knee-jerk dismissal of an entire terrain of leftist thought, along with a general fetishization of failure, and refusal to engage with the complexities of governance, is intellectually lazy and unbecoming of "real leftists". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trojanbark@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (1 child) Agree to disagree permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago How very compelling permalink fedilink source parent [–] trojanbark@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (2 children) I mean, I believe that you believe that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] criscodisco@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 child) What do you think they are? Try to use more than 5 words in your explanation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] trojanbark@lemmy.world 1 point 2 days ago red red red red fash permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago (2 children) "You're confusing actual leftists with the most successful tradition of Leftist political thought, which is highly diverse and continues to guide multiple States and movements today" This is how these people sound. Obviously there are lots of things we can and should criticise about various ML projects. But this knee-jerk dismissal of an entire terrain of leftist thought, along with a general fetishization of failure, and refusal to engage with the complexities of governance, is intellectually lazy and unbecoming of "real leftists". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] trojanbark@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (1 child) Agree to disagree permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago How very compelling permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trojanbark@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago (1 child) Agree to disagree permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago How very compelling permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago How very compelling permalink fedilink source parent
[–] trojanbark@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (2 children) I mean, I believe that you believe that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] criscodisco@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 child) What do you think they are? Try to use more than 5 words in your explanation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] trojanbark@lemmy.world 1 point 2 days ago red red red red fash permalink fedilink source parent
[–] criscodisco@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 child) What do you think they are? Try to use more than 5 words in your explanation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] trojanbark@lemmy.world 1 point 2 days ago red red red red fash permalink fedilink source parent