cross-posted from: https://news.abolish.capital/post/88742

The House Judiciary Committee Democrats have released a trove of evidence regarding allegations of sexual assault, including a new rape allegation, against President Donald Trump in relation to Jeffrey Epstein that the lawmakers say has been deliberately covered up by the Department of Justice. The 50-page report, released Monday, contains testimony from 11 women who either accuse Trump of…

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[–] 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Judge clarifies: Yes, Trump was found to have raped E. Jean Carroll -- The Washington Post, July 19, 2023

A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood.

“The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’ ” Judge Kaplan wrote.

He added: “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”

Note: the WaPo article I just quoted is footnoted in the actual Committee report the above Truthout article is about (page 4). Even the Committee report doesn't mince words. It was rape.

And that's what the jury found when it convicted Trump, according to the judge.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    And that's what the jury found when it convicted Trump

    Might want to work on your reading comprehension. I have no doubt Trump raped E. Jean Carol, but what conviction? What criminal trial has Trump faced for any of his sex crimes?

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    The legal definition of the word convict is to find guilty of a crime after a trial. The common definition of the word is the same. The difference is not in the word, as you are so convinced, but in the type of trial: civil trials are by definition not trials of crime but fault and liability. The civil jury convicted Trump.

    You did not say a single word about a criminal trial in the comment to which I responded.

    In the words of an esteemed judge who knows far more than you (and certainly more than me) about crime, the law, and what the word convict means when properly used in a sentence, and who made that specific distinction himself, the civil jury convicted Trump.

    I think you're finding out just whose comprehension is truly lacking -- and it's not everyone else's.

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