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[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

Ok but like how do you know it's 1/3 of the apple without any other tools.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

What's funny is that you've actually stumbled onto an entire problem that's studied quite heavily. I remembered a Numberphile video about this. The problem is called "envy-free cake splitting". It's pretty straightforward. A split is envy-free if no one believes someone else got more than them. For three people this was figured out in 1960 and you can read about it here. It has been solved for N participants as well and you can read about the general problem here.

For two people, it's obvious. One splits and one chooses. The first person is incentivized to make it even because they don't know which they'll get.

I was going to give a summary of the process for three people but it's too much to explain succinctly. Just check the article I posted lol.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

How is it obvious for two people, what if I have horrible manual dexterity and despite my best efforts, I slice the cake like 1/3 and 2/3, and the other person picks the bigger piece? I would very much envy the other piece

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 1 points 1 hour ago

Then have them cut and you choose. Easy. Now they envy your piece and having better dexterity as well.

Insert Thanos balanced meme here.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Your "cut" would not be complete until you believe you've made them 50/50.

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

here we go infinite cuts

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

it is a magical long sword of apple slicing (+5 damage and THAC0 against apples, +1 otherwise)

[–] blarth@thelemmy.club 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Let’s not go too deep on this alright

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 6 hours ago (2 children)
[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 1 points 4 minutes ago* (last edited 2 minutes ago)

if the cake is a 1-dimensional interval ....
The Stromquist moving-knives procedure uses four simultaneously-moving knives....

Consider a spherical cow perched above a black hole, facing the sunset....

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I did not expect to see this today

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 44 minutes ago* (last edited 43 minutes ago)

To put that in perspective, for 2 people that would be ~4.3 billion

[–] ghen@sh.itjust.works 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Cut first, choose last. It's as fair as you can get when eyeballing it

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 6 hours ago

Only works with two people. For three you use Selfridge-Conway procedure](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selfridge%E2%80%93Conway_procedure) which uses up to five cuts.