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And destroyed 11000 tanks lol

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[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It can’t just be 100% lies

What would happen if it was 100% lies?

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The thing is that Ukranian numbers also have to be the source of Ukranian decisionmaking. They can't just be making shit up and basing stuff on that, they'd have lost if they literally didn't do any kind of strategic assessment.

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
  1. Maybe they already lost a long time ago and what we're seeing now is just a futile waste of lives because the collective west demands it.
  2. Idealists make decisions all of the time based on made up bullshit.
[–] Keld@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If the Ukranian government genuinely thought they killed a million Russian soldiers and destroyed the entire Russian tank fleet, all their ships etc. they would be acting differently. "The Ukrainians are stupid" and the fact that the west will fight to the last Ukranian isn't the heuristic I'm looking for.

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

The German leadership lied to their troops torwards the end of ww1 in order to maintain moral. Then when their loss came as a surprise, they blamed minorities to cope

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

Another possibility is that military victory isn't even being attempted and this is actually just a great smokescreen for all kinds of graft.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

This is exactly how the Axis lost WWII, among other things. They got high on their own supply of propaganda to the point they were making completely irrational decisions. Hitler ordering units that no longer existed to counterattack. Japan thinking the US didn't have the industrial capabilities to fight on two fronts. Whatever the fuck Italy was doing in Ethiopia lmao.

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 week ago

They can’t just be making shit up and basing stuff on that

I mean, at least for the publicly available numbers, they literally can. Not to mention, Ukrainian estimates for war casualties would almost certainly be completely wrong because the Ukrainians have been continuously pushed back for over a year now. How would they even measure Russian casualties? Their frontlines are lacking manpower and they are disadvantaged on the electronic warfare front.