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Slight tangent, I was having a convo along these lines with a friend yesterday who said the early 2010s were a simpler time.
I was like… were they? In the period from the turn of the century until say, second term Obama we had 9/11, GWOT, Iraq, GFC, Occupy, several waves of BLM, Euromaidan, Arab Spring, etc. etc.
But perhaps things have accelerated, contradictions collapsing upon each other more rapidly…. I’m not sure. I feel like shit just feels crazy as you’re living through it, not to mention I was not paying attention to politics in the way I have in the last 10 years or so during that time, despite living through it. I was either a kid or a young disengaged moron.
Are more things happening? I kinda think no…? Is what’s happening with ICE and immigrants worse than what was happening to arabs at Guantanamo in the first part of the century? Is the repression in LA worse than Standing Rock? Is Israel bombing Iran worse than what was done to Libya by NATO, or Russia annexing Crimea? It feels like we fall into this trap of thinking there was an “event” that got us into The Present Where Things Are Happening vs The Past Where Things Were Not Happening, that event usually being Trump or Covid I guess. Which is essentially a metaphysical way of thinking and un-dialectical.
Not to mention that westerners finally getting upset about the current development of their political systems and thinking “the world has gone to shit” clearly just weren’t paying attention to the world outside their walled garden for the last….. 500 years?
Watching a live-streamed genocide every day while the climate is in the process of collapsing is quite a mind fuck though, for sure. And feels pretty new.
The 2010s in the West sucked if you weren't a cis white dude. It was also the time just after the 2008 crash when job hunting first started getting even more impossible and employers started getting more bold. It was the start of housing becoming unaffordable and young people were worse off than their parents for the first time in decades. People were complaining that their kids weren't leaving home at 18 like they did, and proceeded to collectively decide the late teens and young adults of the time were weak and spolied and needed to buy less avocado toast. Employers and landlords used this opportunity to gaslight people into worse conditions, and they haven't looked back since. I cannot overstate just how gaslit an entire generation became and the damage it did. Now you can look at burnt out Millennials and clue in to working hard not getting you anywhere. We didn't have that example, our parents got paid enough to buy their own houses at 20. So we worked hard and burnt out wondering why we weren't getting anywhere. To add insult to injury now people laugh about us being pushovers. Basically laughing at victims for being mentally abused by their elders when they were young and vulnerable.
But that's nothing compared to how much it sucked if you were in one of the countries the west was drone striking.
I guess if you were under 15, wealthy, white, Cis male and in the West at the time it might have seemed simpler. But for everyone else it sucked hard.
2008 is a definite cut off point as far as generational financial mobility. If you had it before your pretty good, if not it’s a lot harder.
human perception of time slows down as you receive novel inputs that create new memories
I think this is spot-on. What I haven't seen mentioned is Trump's showmanship. He's a clown, an entertainer. He knows how to drive the ratings and get people to tune in. I think that's what's different compared to the last few decades. We have a reality TV star doing livestreams of him committing crimes while posting 24/7.
Compare that to Obama's administration where just as much ghoul shit was happening, but a large section of Americans still got their information from the 6 o'clock news. They didn't have smartphones buzzing anytime Obama drone strike'd another hospital.
Something similar happened with Vietnam where TV made the war unpalatable compared to Korea just a few years before. Flash forwarding to today, the media hasn't gotten internet news figured out the same way they did with cable news between the Vietnam and Iraq wars. So now we see Israelis sharing TikTok videos of them committing war crimes with the LAPD doing photo ops for Instagram that makes them look like assholes.
I agree that things were always fucked to a degree (especially the Bush years imo) but what I’m talking about specifically is that I feel like all of these events I mentioned are intentionally linked and possibly a setup for something. Again, conspiracy brain, but I wanted to get opinions from people here if they’re having similar thoughts.
Well, Indivisible is a DNC operation as far as I can tell, and they are scheduling things and driving a lot of the movement we see, so the idea of the protests building towards the June 14 military parade I think is plausible.
The strike on Iran, and likely the inevitable retaliation, being done this week is very likely timed for the parade. I know some people say it's because Bibi was at risk of being voted out but I think that's a cover, given the contradictory reports of the date of the vote and the vote counts I have seen so far. It makes sense, too, for the military parade to coincide with one of USA's boogeymen doing violence.
I don't think you're conspiracy brained.