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[–] carlossurf@lemmy.ca 116 points 1 day ago (37 children)

All those morons who voted for trump hope you enjoy being even more broke for the next decade and your sons going to war to die so rich cunts can get richer

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Iran is a paper tiger. A war of that scale can only be fought if the other side has the capabilities to fight back, Iran does not.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world -3 points 20 hours ago (9 children)

So much of a paper tiger that thry need support for all the west

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

What has Iran done that actually constitutes a proportional response? Every time they get humiliated by Israel, they shoot a bunch of empty missles and then claim that they destroyed Tel Aviv, even though more than 90% of their missles don't hit anything.

[–] no_more_dogz@endlesstalk.org 0 points 14 hours ago

That's the sad part. If the US weren't protecting a fascist ethnostate they would learn their lesson.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world -3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Videos show the opposite of what you claim

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

What videos? Besides we're going off of assessed damage. Israel kills Haniyeh in Tehran and Iran shoots a bunch of empty missles that barely hit anything. Israel kills 20+ of their top commanders in one night and Iran again shoots a bunch of empty missles that barely hit anything. Israel neuters Hezbollah, Iran does nothing. Israel bombs the Iranian embassy in Syria, and Iran does nothing. Mossad agents have been confirmed being literally everywhere in the Iranian state, and they do nothing.

Iran hasn't done any percesion strikes or targeted assassinations or caused any damage to Israeli defenses or destroyed any critical Israeli infrastructure or any covert intelligence operations. They've done nothing because they can't do anything. The Iranian regime literally made destroying Israel a core part of their identity, and over the past few years, Israel has been destroying them without any pushback. For a regime that brags about their prowess and capabilities, why haven't they used them already? The answer is simple, Iran is a paper tiger.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world -2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Videos of israeli filming the damage despite israel trying to censor them. There is already dozens of reported injured israelis.

The real plan is to do a regime change it won't happen

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Are you hearing yourself? You sound ridiculous.

Results of Israel's attacks:

  • 20+ of the IRGC's top commanders

  • Invaluable nuclear scientists

  • Military systems sabatoged

  • Nuclear facilities damaged

  • Airfields and other critical infrastructure damaged

Results of Iran's retaliation:

  • A couple dozen Israeli civilian injuries

  • A few damaged buildings

These are not at all comparable. Clearly did way more damage to the Iranian regime, and Iran's response is undeniably weaker.

[–] no_more_dogz@endlesstalk.org -2 points 14 hours ago

Aren't you a genocide apologist? Can't believe you're still allowed to talk here.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world -1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Again winning is based on objectives. Israel will never reach it objective of a regime change unless there is a ground operation of multiple years. Similar on how hizbollah was considered the winner despite israel have significally less casualities in 2006.

It's not the first time iran lost scientists and top leaders

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/damage-iranian-nuclear-sites-so-far-appears-limited-experts-say-2025-06-13/

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Israel's objective isn't regime change. They would welcome a regime change, but that has never been the objective. The actual objective has been to dismantle Iran's ability to project power. This means stopping them from getting nukes, having a capable military, and having reliable proxies. They've been doing a good job doing all of this over the past few years, and this attack is another example.

On the other hand, Iran's explicitly stated objective is to destroy Israel... And they haven't done a thing to get anywhere near that.

You're simply being dishonest by trying to pretend that Iran is somehow keeping up or exceeding Israel in their back and forth when they're very clearly and objectively not.

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