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Most (70%+) Iranians would welcome the U.S. getting rid of the Mullahs, freeing them.
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They wouldn't like who the US parachutes in his place tho.
Potentially. Especially with all their oil.
But still, I think that still would be preferable to them, the lesser of the two evils.
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I don't know, the Shah was pretty bad. But I guess he wasn't policing fashion?
I heard the story once from an Iranian, about the difference between the Shah and the Mullahs.
If kids at school were talking about how their parents hated the political leader, and the leader was the Shah, then that evening some plain clothed people would show up to their front door to beat up the parents.
But if the leader was the Mullahs, then the plain clothed people would show up at their front door to shoot/kill the parents.
So Iranians see a difference between the two.
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70% of Iranians would like to be rid of the mullahs. That doesn't mean they want the US to inflict half a million civilian casualties, as they did when ridding Iraq of Saddam Hussein. And this time, Trump and Hegseth will be running the show, so it's a certainty it'll be worse.
Personally I would tend to agree with you, but that didn't stop the Iranians from having protest events in Iran calling for Trump to win/invade.
People don't always act logically, or maybe they measure the 'lesser of the two evils' and take actions based on that. Iranians were hoping Trump would win the election just for that reason, to invade and kick out the Mullahs.
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I'm sure they would, but WhiskeyLeaks and the Perjury Gang would level whole cities and villages without a thought. They dropped an entire complex because they saw the guy they were targeting go in to see his girlfriend and got wet when they heard of the destruction.
One guy and they killed 50+ men, women, and children.
They could finally live in peace and they could reintroduce the slave market in Iran like they did for Libya.
You should really look up the amazing freedom US brought to Libya by killing Gadaffi.
If you wonder why Iranians are poor it is mostly because America is doing everything it can to cripple the Iranian economy and starve them.
Its not a matter of knowing the history or not (I do), its a matter of using extreme dumb hyperbole ('slave market') in trying to make a point. Its bad conversation.
And it happen way too often here on Lemmy.
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Oh wait you think I am exaggerating.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-42038451
You need to make the connection that this is U.S. Government-sanctioned slavery.
Slavery existed in Africa for hundreds of years (unfortunately).
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This was not a practice under Gadaffi.
NATO was involved but the US didn't kill Qadhafi. The Libyan NTC did that.
Semantics.
Yeah, no. The Iranians had a front row seat on what happened when the Americans 'freed' the Iraqis.
I spoke to a younger Iranian once who ran an electronic store in Tehran about the very same thing.
I asked him if they wanted (at that time) G.W. Bush to come in and free them, Iraq style. He took a moment to think, then said, before the Iraqi invasion, yes definitely. After, the invasion, not so much. But also, that he definitely hated the Mullahs.
If you ask older Iranians, they all overwhelmingly want that to happen. So might just be an age divide thing.
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Exactly, they might not like the current regime but they also don’t want America to step into Iran.
They don’t want to become an Iraq or an Afghanistan.
Even the old folk would start to resent the Americans once they start seeing their homes blown to pieces.
The mess an American invasion of Iran would make would just play into Iranian propaganda.
Though they do worry about what you've mentioned, most Iranians I've talked to currently are "willing to risk it", as they are sick and tired of the Mullahs at this point.
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