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Senior IDF officers admit 'uncalculated' fire on Gaza aid seekers after Haaretz expose
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EDIT: To better express my point - I'm East European who with boiling blood hate levels against Russia. I have never said "Death to russians". I do say "Support Ukraine". See the difference? Honestly, would not surprise me if half of lemmy does not.
Your extremism approach to the problem aside - note that IDF is mandatory to everyone who reaches 18 with some exceptions, which means the same people who report Israeli atrocities to the media and never wanted to be part of this, is now in your call for death.
Since IDF is mandatory to nearly every Israeli citizen, that also means you're essentially calling for genocide while saying genocide is bad. Do you feel morally conflicted, or are you like the people you hate?
EDIT2: Ehh lemmy.. allahu akbar, death to america and give me upvotes, is this how we talk now?
IDF is an institute, you can wish its demise without it being understood as death to all conscripted Israelis. Putting aside that as a settler-colonial project founded on ethnic cleansing, no one in Israel is innocent, only varying degrees of culpability. Even more so when they have been constantly voting for extremist and genocidal politicians, and the one prime minister that was willing to make peace with the Palestinians got assassinated.
Would you morally object to "Death to the Hitler Youth"? how about "Death to Nazis"?
Do you truly, honestly believe that people shooting starving kids in bread lines are morally conflicted about the genocide they are committing? Nobody is forcing them to shoot at bread lines. They choose to do it.
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about generalization. Not all black people are thieves, you know? Plenty of people from IDF have spoken up and plenty of jewish people have been protesting against everything that's happening. My point was simply that calling for mass execution of a group of people makes you morally questionable too.
You can’t just ignore the genocide because it makes your point weak.
Black people are born black and cannot change that. Jews are born that way and cannot change it. Nobody is born in the IDF.
What? You literally make no sense, because my point was about genocide. You calling for genocide against a group doing the genocide when said group is also full of people who were forced into IDF and constantly help the media and world see what's truly going on does not make you the morally highest creature.
Americans don't scream "Death to police", they scream "Defund the police". Your choice of words would make you a fine addition to ranking officers of IDF, you get my point?
Do you think it's too extreme to say 'death to nazis'?
Depends what you mean by that. If you mean nazi germany, then yes, killing entire nation because of corrupt leadership is bad, okay? Are we clear on that? The WW2 result was better than what some of you would have done to the Germans. Don't become the person you hate.
You can answer your own question but by changing roles - Can people yell "Kill Palestinians" because of corrupt Hamas leadership? Do you see how stupid that question is?
You can go to prison for the duration of the service instead of participating in genocide. Anyone who doesn’t do that is actively choosing to commit genocide.
It's genuinely not that easy and ruins your future chances of having a good life. Just the fact alone that the jail time is looped as long as you refuse to serve IDF, ending your jail time with another draft is.. dark.
Getting shot in a breadline also ruins your future chances at a good life. Being bombed in your hospital bed ruins your future chances of having a good life. Do you deny the genocide in Gaza?
I don't understand why you keep asking me that question and I keep having to answer yes for you to stop going offtopic
Because you keep begging for sympathy towards those who choose to commit genocide. You are pretending like there is some moral quandary here where none exists.
Begging for sympathy? More like making sure you and this website does not get flagged as an extremist place with no moderation, seeing the same fate as multiple chans and freedom boards. Me wanting others to stop acting like extremists does not equal me defending IDF. You being a piece of shit towards the group whose opinion you want to change ruins your own chances of swaying said people's opinions.
Military does not drop flyers saying "death to you", they drop flyers saying "stop serving the army and we will help you".
Still not getting my point? Damn I'm too European for this platform
Most Europeans don’t sympathize with genociders.
Exactly, which is why I'm showing a clear disgust towards the people calling for (another) genocide. You. Hypocrisy is flying over your head.
Why are you defending baby killers
Why are you missing basic comprehension skills?
I take it to mean "disband" the IDF
if the extreme right can be loose with the meaning of words, so can we