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[–] 11 points 1 year ago (56 children)

For those holding out for a hero: https://ladybird.org/

Ladybird is a brand-new browser & web engine. Driven by a web standards first approach, Ladybird aims to render the modern web with good performance, stability and security.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I'm not looking for a hero, I'm looking for stability.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    The fact that it's aiming to be stable doesn't mean it is. It's still a work in progress unlike other browsers.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Currently, it's pretty shit. It starts up in fullscreen with a non managed window, well, fuck that noise.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    well that’s because it’s kinda not trying to be a browser first; it’s trying to be an engine… let others make the UI, and ladybird can be the best damn thing to wrap that UI around… from what i understand, they have a web browser as more of a tech demo right now

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yes, but I still don't know why they seem to think it's so important to write a new browser engine instead of improving Gecko or Servo. To me it just seems like people like it because they don't know other things aside from the Chrome, Safari, and Firefox browser engines exist and just chase something new and shiny.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    that’s fair, but i think there’s space for multiple to compete… servo and ladybird have different ethos from what i can tell.. ladybird is trying to build everything from scratch, as well as being completely independent (whilst servo was mozilla and is now the linux foundation)

    personally, i prefer servo just because its rust and i don't think that independence from the linux foundation is really that important

    but that’s not to say that what ladybird is trying to achieve, or their reasons are wrong

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Why not just run a community build of Firefox, like IceCat?

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If Firefox doesn't keep up with web standards, neither will any of the forks

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Cold take: we need to stop chasing web Standards that are purposefully set up by big corpo to be exlusionary.

    What we need, what Firefox could hope to be, is a browser developed for a new old internet paradigm. Maybe Gopher, or Gemini (the good one). Alternatively a purposefully reduced HTML+CSS, no JS.

    Trim down the fat so that it is actually possible to finance the development of a web engine an browser without leeching on a dick corpo (and sabotagong open internet in the process).

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