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Firefox is fine. The people running it are not (www.theregister.com)
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[–] 24 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Sadly I am running into more and more things that don't work on firefox. Stuff like medical record portals, financial websites for my companies retirement plan. Stuff I have little choice about. And most fail silently. They don't say it is the browser. I don't know how they are doing it, but google is winning the fight.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    When I asked a couple of developers who work on websites/webapps with a lot of moving parts, they said it was easiest to just test for chrome, since that's what most people use.

    It's turned into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    It's so damn stupid. If your site works meaningfully differently in Firefox vs Chromium, you're already doing something very, very wrong.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Chromium does a lot of heavy lifting to fix problems with websites which enables certain web developers to be lazy.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Smae thing that Nvidia does with OpenGL. Their driver handles a lot erroneous out of spec behaviour so developers think their game works fine but the moment you run it on AMD or Intel GPUs, you get all sorts of issues because they actually implement the spec accurately.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    This is like telling people that they are doing something wrong when they don't "buy low and sell high" when they're trading. Obviously. Issues with browser parity are born from a difficulty of the how and the when, not the what.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    It's ironic that I use Firefox personally but unfortunately we prioritized Chrome when I did more front end work too. Firefox would often render views differently compared to Chrome (Safari was also a shetshow) and we had to prioritize work ofc, especially for legacy stuff.

    The thing is, as a pure guess, I would bet that it's Chrome that's not adhering to the web standards.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I switched from Chrome to Firefox at work recently once they added tab groups. A few parts of one of the web apps my team maintains straight up don't work. I mentioned it in a meeting, received a full 10 seconds of silence before someone said "Well customers aren't complaining..."

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    If a site I have to use doesn't work for no apparent reason, I e-mail the company's Support. Let them sort it out, or provide another way I can do what I'm trying to do. Personally, I think a lot of the problems are from more and more websites integrating privacy-invading "features", and FF interfering with their operation.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I talked to tech support once, they said it won't get fixed, and there was no workaround. It was a platform type site. So I'm not their direct custom. A small business is. And the people at the small business have never heard of firefox. So they don't even understand the problem.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Yeah support either doesn't know or care. They just say, weird the website doesn't work with your device. Do you have another computer?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    As someone who's worked in IT, in corporate and not so corporate companies, it's often not that the support techs don't care. It's that management doesn't. In most companies, I was explicitly told to not care about certain things. If I cared too much and spent too much time on one single problem, to fix it for good, I was told off. As long as users could work in some way, it didn't matter. Even if that included ineffective or costly workarounds. That kind of thinking has and will always rub me the wrong way.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Stuff like medical record portals, financial websites for my companies retirement plan. Stuff I have little choice about. And most fail silently.

    I recall how South Korea literally painted itself into a corner for becoming too dependent on Internet Explorer after years of using it with a security implementation based entirely on ActiveX.

    I'm currently using a user-agent switcher plugin. Allows me to spoof servers into believing I'm running a different browser.

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