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How is kindness a bad thing? I thought that was universally agreed to be a good message to have in a piece of media. I guess the excuse is they don't want media to have messages at all but like, how would you even have a movie where the hero has no values that they stand for?

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[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 40 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Anyone could quick give me a small summary?

James Gunn commented that Superman is an immigrant, and conservatives are losing their minds

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 40 points 2 days ago (2 children)

People on Facebook are telling me he isn't an immigrant, he's from outer space. I'm so confused as to what they think an immigrant is

[–] Fluke@feddit.uk 24 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Literally an illegal alien, and they refuse to see it.

[–] 790@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 days ago

The most illegal alien. Smallville had an episode where Clark helped hide an undocumented migrant. His mom tried to chastise him and he had to remind her his own paperwork is shady as hell.

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

illegal alien

So no Englishman from New York?

Does he like his toast done on one side..?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 2 days ago

illegal space alien.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

No no no, you see he's white! /s

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"Strange visitor from another planet" is one of the first things most people learn about him, right after him being neither a bird nor a plane.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

and conservatives are losing their minds

"he can't be! He isn't brown!"

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Apparently there is a black version of Superman in some comics and they were making a movie of him. Sadly, the movie has been cancelled.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, the cancelled movie would have been with Will Smith. I'm ok being without a Will Smith Superman movie. Steel did get his own movie, but without any Superman IP in it.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They already made a Will Smith Superman movie. He was a drunk hobo version of Superman.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

oh yeah. It was ok.

[–] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

He also renounced his US citizenship in Action Comics #900 like 15 years ago.

[–] DarkMetatron@feddit.org 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

But that's nothing new. In Smallville there is one episode in which Clark literally said to his mother Martha that he is an illegal alien too.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He also said that Superman is kind, and that bothered them too.

[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That’s all? That’s why they’re upset? Sigh, it’s as if someone accidentally farts and then they rage.

Isn’t he kinda right though? If I remember well, Superman came from another planet.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There are two plausible explanations:

  1. People think immigrant refers to a person who chose to move. Since Superman didn't arrive on Earth by choice, he's not an immigrant. This is, of course, incorrect.

  2. People think the term immigrant only refers to people who look "different" compared to what is common in the region. This is, of course, racist.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If they're okay with immigrants who didn't come by choice, then all the children who were brought to America illegally by their parents should be allowed to stay and everyone born in America should be allowed to stay citizens.

As for Superman not looking like an immigrant, it is actually a big coincidence in-universe that he happens to look like a white human. There's no Europe on Krypton.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

As for Superman not looking like an immigrant, it is actually a big coincidence in-universe that he happens to look like a white human. There's no Europe on Krypton.

Now I want an alternate-universe Superman who happens to be black, and lands in racist-as-hell-ville in the rural USA.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 6 points 2 days ago

Refugees are a type of immigrant though.