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[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Sure there are many other societies where gender is also thoroughly and completely cooked to higher levels than it is in say UK, USA, or so on such as Saudi Arabia but it's a very broad generalisation to say it's cooked everywhere. There have been and are matriarchal societies even that have very different norms than we do. Not all societies are heteronormative either. I don't know all the societies in the world. I am pushing it to even say all western societies are cooked.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess my point is, the idea of roles based on gender, in and of its self, is BS

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hmm. I think there are some things where they are necessary for biological reasons. Like males having increased upper body strength, or females dealing with birth, period pains, etc where some things can only be done by one physical sex or one needs more understanding of certain things. Other than that though your pretty much spot on. Plus sex and gender aren't exactly the same thing anyway as I am sure someone will point out.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean those are on a person by person basis as well. I know women who are physically stronger than most of the men I know, and would be more fit for harder labor than most of them. Women who don't have the ability to have children, or periods, etc. It is best we assess things based on individual capacity, or merit, or whatever, rather than write rules that are completely exclusive to an entire group of people based on broad statistics.

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No biological male can have periods or bear children. I think that's fairly straight forward. Strength is a spectrum though I agree.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

i didnt say they could, I said not all biological women can, this is the assumption made by people that causes issues. The other are transmen who find themselves without proper sanitary supplies due to assumptions based on being see as the gender they transitioned to.