▲ 813 ▼ OpenAI will not disclose GPT-5’s energy use. It could be higher than past models (www.theguardian.com) submitted 1 year ago by Davriellelouna@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 136 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 24 points 1 year ago (7 children) intense electricity demands, and WATER for cooling. permalink fedilink source hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Event_Horizon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) I wonder if at this stage all the processors should simply be submerged into a giant cooling tank. It seems easier and more efficient. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) Or you could build the centers in colder climate areas. Here in Finland it's common (maybe even mandatory, I'm not sure) for new datacenters to pull the heat from their systems and use that for district heating. No wasted water and at least you get something useful out of LLMs. Obviously using them as a massive electric boiler is pretty inefficient but energy for heating is needed anyways so at least we can stay warm and get 90s action series fanfic on top of that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) What happens to that heat in summer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago There's experimental storages where heat is pumped to underground pools or sand, but as far as I know there's heat exchangers and radiators to outside, so majority of excess heat is just wasted to outside. But absolute majority of them are closed loop systems since you need something else than plain water anyways to prevent freezing in the winter. permalink fedilink source parent [–] OADINC@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) Microsoft has tried running datacenters in the sea, for cooling purposes. Microsoft blog permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) brings in another problem, so they have to use generators, or undersea cables. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Fine: make it a data-center powered by water-wheel generators. Water powered AND cooled! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Event_Horizon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (6 children) I wonder if at this stage all the processors should simply be submerged into a giant cooling tank. It seems easier and more efficient. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) Or you could build the centers in colder climate areas. Here in Finland it's common (maybe even mandatory, I'm not sure) for new datacenters to pull the heat from their systems and use that for district heating. No wasted water and at least you get something useful out of LLMs. Obviously using them as a massive electric boiler is pretty inefficient but energy for heating is needed anyways so at least we can stay warm and get 90s action series fanfic on top of that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) What happens to that heat in summer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago There's experimental storages where heat is pumped to underground pools or sand, but as far as I know there's heat exchangers and radiators to outside, so majority of excess heat is just wasted to outside. But absolute majority of them are closed loop systems since you need something else than plain water anyways to prevent freezing in the winter. permalink fedilink source parent [–] OADINC@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) Microsoft has tried running datacenters in the sea, for cooling purposes. Microsoft blog permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) brings in another problem, so they have to use generators, or undersea cables. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Fine: make it a data-center powered by water-wheel generators. Water powered AND cooled! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (2 children) Or you could build the centers in colder climate areas. Here in Finland it's common (maybe even mandatory, I'm not sure) for new datacenters to pull the heat from their systems and use that for district heating. No wasted water and at least you get something useful out of LLMs. Obviously using them as a massive electric boiler is pretty inefficient but energy for heating is needed anyways so at least we can stay warm and get 90s action series fanfic on top of that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) What happens to that heat in summer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago There's experimental storages where heat is pumped to underground pools or sand, but as far as I know there's heat exchangers and radiators to outside, so majority of excess heat is just wasted to outside. But absolute majority of them are closed loop systems since you need something else than plain water anyways to prevent freezing in the winter. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) What happens to that heat in summer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago There's experimental storages where heat is pumped to underground pools or sand, but as far as I know there's heat exchangers and radiators to outside, so majority of excess heat is just wasted to outside. But absolute majority of them are closed loop systems since you need something else than plain water anyways to prevent freezing in the winter. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago There's experimental storages where heat is pumped to underground pools or sand, but as far as I know there's heat exchangers and radiators to outside, so majority of excess heat is just wasted to outside. But absolute majority of them are closed loop systems since you need something else than plain water anyways to prevent freezing in the winter. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OADINC@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) Microsoft has tried running datacenters in the sea, for cooling purposes. Microsoft blog permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) brings in another problem, so they have to use generators, or undersea cables. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Fine: make it a data-center powered by water-wheel generators. Water powered AND cooled! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) brings in another problem, so they have to use generators, or undersea cables. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Fine: make it a data-center powered by water-wheel generators. Water powered AND cooled! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago Fine: make it a data-center powered by water-wheel generators. Water powered AND cooled! permalink fedilink source parent