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Ok, I think I understand what the problem is here. You took my original comment
and ran with that, and completely ignored the qualifying phrase that followed it
that is, that he was god and did miracles and magic and was born from a virgin impregnated by god.
You are completely focused on my apparent assertion that Jesus never existed, and have totally ignored the entire point of the original post, and my original response to you, to focus on something I never actually asserted. So go re-read my original response, and let's clear this up.
I am not claiming, and have never claimed that there definitely was never a Jewish Rabbi that was called Jesus who started a whole new religion in the middle east.
I frankly don't give a shit if he was in fact 1 real person, or a post-hoc fictional man based on multiple people, or just made up whole-cloth. It doesn't really matter. What matters, especially in the context of this post, is that I am asserting that there was not a man who was a god, or did any miracles or magic, or died and came back to life 2 days later and then went to heaven. That is not based on fact.
Again, we have tall tales about any number of historical (even still living) figures. "The Pope isn't a wizard, therefore he doesn't exist" doesn't logically follow.
"There's no evidence Jesus existed" was the base claim.
Who exactly, in this thread, made that claim? FORGET the whole Jesus thing. That was never the point, which you latched onto like it owes you money.
OP's assertion, summarized: the existence of book "X" is not proof that its contents are truthful, because fiction books exist Your response: book "Y" exists that is fiction, but has a character from book X, so the argument is invalid
You are arguing all over this thread against the claim that Jesus didn't exist, and yet I don't see that anyone in this thread made that claim.
OP's claim is that the bible is not proof that god exists, and the quran is not proof that allah exists. That's it. Your response about Caesar and Lincoln is invalid because the core claims of their factual existence (remember: vs. god/allah, not Jesus!) are not based on a single, curated book of stories with miracles and magic. There is no religious movement claiming that Lincoln chased vampires, nor is that book considered core documentation describing the life of Lincoln. Your argument is irrelevant.