Bluesky

note that neither Penrose or Hameroff are trained in the discipline either.

Because it's a physics problem... At its base level consciousness is a thing that is happening between physical components unless you say it's Jesus taking the wheel at it's root it's a physics problem.

He's spent literally 40 years of his "retirement" looking into it. He knows far more than us or anyone else on the planet.

Someone will come after him and finish it up, just like him and Hawking finished Einstein's. That doesn't mean pretend it doesn't exist till it's scientifically proven.

I compared it temperature, which can also produce anesthesia and loss of consciousness. But no one would step up and say that consciousness is temperature

What does that even mean?

That would be the cause not mechanism of action. Like, I get you were trying to make a silly point, but all that did is show you're not understanding this

I'm sorry, I just don't think I'm able to explain this in a way you can understand