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Internet Archive’s legal fights are over, but its founder mourns what was lost (arstechnica.com)
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“We survived, but it wiped out the library,” Internet Archive’s founder says.

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[–] 3 points 11 months ago (6 children)

That isn't what we are talking about, apologies for not being clear with that.

We are talking about them not taking down things like tweets etc without what they consider a 'good reason'.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago* (5 children)

    The article is about the internet archive's book library, however I'm very open to discussing tweets.

    Maybe this is because I was taught "once it's on the Internet it's out there forever" growing up, but I have no problem with everything posted to the internet being archived forever. Why should someone have the ability to scrub their past and pretend they are perfect? Sure I don't agree with every opinion I've ever posted, but that doesn't mean I should be able to pretend I never said those things.

    I see no difference between a newspaper recording a public speech and the Internet Archive recording a public tweet.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Because things can be posted about other people without their consent. Things like revenge porn, the location of air defenses, etc.

    I think it’s something that is currently being figured out in various legal systems around the world.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    I agree, those are examples of things that should be able to be deleted from an archive. In my mind those are different issues than just the archive though, and we should probably have laws in place ensuring that content like that can be removed from anywhere on the Internet.

    But it really seems like you're arguing that "some content shouldn't be archived forever", not that "an archive must receive consent before recording public Internet data."

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    Why should someone have the ability to scrub their past and pretend they are perfect?

    That's not what it does. People are capable of changing on their own and thus should have the right for their past mistakes or opinions to be forgotten, or just to be forgotten anyway.

    Having their past or just current opinions dragged up can actually have the opposite effect and force them to double down. So having some way of getting rid of it all could actually help them work through their terrible opinions.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    If someone go out in public spouting terrible opinions, I think they should be responsible for explaining why they were wrong and why they no longer believe what they used to. That is hard and requires actually growing as a person, instead of just deleting their past and pretending they never said what they did.

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