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Happens way too often😮‍💨 (europe.pub)
submitted 10 months ago by to c/memes@lemmy.world
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[–] 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

To be fair, this is A pretty complex thing, you can show facts to some people and if it doesn't fit their narrative they will not follow, but there are others who are open. What he should have said was okay there is a trend of this but in my personal experience there are people who do not have this issue as well. And that's not even considering how you approach something, if you come in guns blazing and condescending people will shut you down no matter what facts you have. If you come in understanding and willing to discuss, people are more open to changing their mind. It kind of sounds like op found the two articles didn't actually read them and considered herself the "winner" on this

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Assuming the papers actually dispute the original claim, you'd expect the person to whom OP's referring to not require that approach but accept the facts and admit their wrongness upon viewing the data. The situation just ends up being ironic otherwise.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    I mean yeah, i don't know many people who can just "Read" an entire damn research paper, but usually the abstract is sufficient and taking a look at a few gathered data points. But in my experience, like you said, sometimes the paper just concludes not too strongly one way or another

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    if you come in guns blazing and condescending people will shut you down no matter what facts you have

    I love that approach, but then I'm not trying to change minds of those who lack the wisdom to prioritize the truth & objectivity over themselves and should know better. Merely trying to vindicate a neglected consideration for cooler minds. If someone's ready for it, then great, and if not, then we can admire & ridicule their folly: reality doesn't care. Defending truth & rationality is reward enough & those too foolish to appreciate it can find their own way there.

    It's pretty much acknowledging

    you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

    It's good enough to point out the water & even be insolent about it: the horse only prolongs its dehydration by not drinking, & there are better horses. I'm not a horse trainer.

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