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Zig: Migrating from GitHub to Codeberg (ziglang.org)
submitted 10 months ago by to c/programming@programming.dev
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[–] 12 points 10 months ago (12 children)

Why? Microsoft gives them a ton of money for CI and infrastructure. Unless they are having serious technical issues I don't see why they would move to a more expensive and probably less well integrated CI provider.

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  • [–] 26 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Putting aside GitHub’s relationship with ICE, […]

    More importantly, Actions is created by monkeys and completely neglected. After the CEO of GitHub said to “embrace AI or get out”, it seems the lackeys at Microsoft took the hint, because GitHub Actions started “vibe-scheduling”; choosing jobs to run seemingly at random. Combined with other bugs and inability to manually intervene, this causes our CI system to get so backed up that not even master branch commits get checked.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    It's "relationship with ICE" is that they haven't banned an official US government agency from buying their software. I might not agree with what ICE is doing but I also don't agree with every corporation in the world having to morally police all of their customers for fear of being pilloried by cancel culturists.

    The "created by monkeys" seems to be a minor bug. What system doesn't have those? I've certainly had plenty worse bugs with Gitlab CI.

    "Completely neglected" is complaining about the lack of FreeBSD support!

    I do think GitHub is relatively neglected. There are quite a few big issues they could fix with relatively little effort but they seem to go years with no comment.

    It's not really much better with Gitlab though; the only difference is you see more "a large premium customer is requesting this" comments!

    I doubt Forgejo really have more resources to fix bugs than GitHub or Gitlab.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    I might not agree with what ICE is doing but I also don’t agree with every corporation in the world having to morally police all of their customers for fear of being pilloried by cancel culturists.

    I don't think ICE behavior is remotely equivalent to celebrities who annoy people into trying to organize a boycott. To compare them like this suggests to me that the person doing so is either willfully complicit, or unfathomably out of touch. I hope you'll give your position some more thought.

    “The only thing nec­es­sary for the tri­umph of evil is for good men to do noth­ing.”

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago*

    … Gitlab though; the only difference is you see more “a large premium customer is requesting this” comments!

    I love those! /s 😄 It can certainly feel like a pattern, specifically for some tickets.

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago* (4 children)

    Why?

    To show some backbone. Microsoft was involved in enough abominable things in the last years alone; any one of them is reason enough to boycott them for it.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I must have missed those abominable things...? You don't mean the ICE stuff?

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    maybe they also mean Israel/Gaza or the AI push

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  • [–] -4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I wouldn't say those are "abominable" either. AI is fine. Microsoft actually cut off Israel's access to Azure...

    They're operating infrastructure. They aren't going to morally vet every single customer. Imagine how many dubious things run on AWS that we never hear about!

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    Microsoft actually cut off Israel’s access to Azure…

    After months of pressure and trying to silence internal criticism.

    I had to look it up to make sure "months of" is correct. Wikipedia has the infos https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Microsoft#Israeli_military_support 2023-2025, various employees fired

    “Microsoft actually cut off Israel’s access to Azure” doesn't really cover or adequately represent their behavior regarding this topic.

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