▲ 146 ▼ The US military is using the white supremacist Jerusalem Cross on its propaganda (www.thecanary.co) submitted 10 months ago by SalaciousBCrumb@lemy.lol to c/world@quokk.au 45 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (20 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 20 child comments replies: [–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 8 points 10 months ago* (1 child) The ADL is a ZioNazi hate org, no upstanding member of society should ever care what they say. https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/2025/01/22/adl-defends-nazi-salutes/ Likewise this is the same government hell bent on Israel slaughtering in the Middle East so they can have their rapture or whatever. There is no doubt this is related to white supremacism/Christian nationalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children) Fuck Christians and their symbology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago I appreciate you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Legianus@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago (10 children) I agree, though I am of the opinion that in secular states (at least at home and in peace time) government officials (including the army) should not wear any religious iconography permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Legianus@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago* (8 children) I would say ideally not as they represent the state and thus should not wear iconography of any sort for secular states. I also know that this might not be exactly practial in reality permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 4 points 10 months ago (5 children) for a lot of people that is asking them to renounce their religious beliefs in service of the national interest permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Legianus@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago (3 children) Yes I see that problem and in the best case it would not be renouncing their beliefs not to wear something where it is not appropriate, but there are many other beliefs or reasons where one is excluded from official office/army, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Legianus@programming.dev 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Similar to the original meaning of this post. Many countries forbid people to enter the military and similar office, if they are known to hold extreme believes (e.g. extreme right wing rhetoric has been used by them or such). Not always foolproof though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Legianus@programming.dev 1 point 10 months ago I think you are correct as it is now. And I do agree, as it is right now it is not practical to be completely secular for people holding these offices. However, ideally, these groups would not need the recognition in this way as they ought to already have it otherwise and understanding that at some places some things are limited, should not discourage them to believe in what they want. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Do you think they're talking about just a regular cross like you'd see on a church? Because that's not the symbol being discussed here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] minnism@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) First, fuck the ADL. They are so pro-fascism their own logo is now a hate-symbol. Second, the Jerusalem cross on dozens of buildings doesn't sounds like a very significant Christian symbol. It's very contextual. Third, you clearly haven't looked very hard. Fourth, your conclusion is... really stupid. Stop being such a snowflake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 8 points 10 months ago* (1 child) The ADL is a ZioNazi hate org, no upstanding member of society should ever care what they say. https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/2025/01/22/adl-defends-nazi-salutes/ Likewise this is the same government hell bent on Israel slaughtering in the Middle East so they can have their rapture or whatever. There is no doubt this is related to white supremacism/Christian nationalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (2 children) Fuck Christians and their symbology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago I appreciate you. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago I appreciate you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago I appreciate you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Legianus@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago (10 children) I agree, though I am of the opinion that in secular states (at least at home and in peace time) government officials (including the army) should not wear any religious iconography permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Legianus@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago* (8 children) I would say ideally not as they represent the state and thus should not wear iconography of any sort for secular states. I also know that this might not be exactly practial in reality permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 4 points 10 months ago (5 children) for a lot of people that is asking them to renounce their religious beliefs in service of the national interest permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Legianus@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago (3 children) Yes I see that problem and in the best case it would not be renouncing their beliefs not to wear something where it is not appropriate, but there are many other beliefs or reasons where one is excluded from official office/army, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Legianus@programming.dev 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Similar to the original meaning of this post. Many countries forbid people to enter the military and similar office, if they are known to hold extreme believes (e.g. extreme right wing rhetoric has been used by them or such). Not always foolproof though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Legianus@programming.dev 1 point 10 months ago I think you are correct as it is now. And I do agree, as it is right now it is not practical to be completely secular for people holding these offices. However, ideally, these groups would not need the recognition in this way as they ought to already have it otherwise and understanding that at some places some things are limited, should not discourage them to believe in what they want. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Legianus@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago* (8 children) I would say ideally not as they represent the state and thus should not wear iconography of any sort for secular states. I also know that this might not be exactly practial in reality permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 4 points 10 months ago (5 children) for a lot of people that is asking them to renounce their religious beliefs in service of the national interest permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Legianus@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago (3 children) Yes I see that problem and in the best case it would not be renouncing their beliefs not to wear something where it is not appropriate, but there are many other beliefs or reasons where one is excluded from official office/army, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Legianus@programming.dev 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Similar to the original meaning of this post. Many countries forbid people to enter the military and similar office, if they are known to hold extreme believes (e.g. extreme right wing rhetoric has been used by them or such). Not always foolproof though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Legianus@programming.dev 1 point 10 months ago I think you are correct as it is now. And I do agree, as it is right now it is not practical to be completely secular for people holding these offices. However, ideally, these groups would not need the recognition in this way as they ought to already have it otherwise and understanding that at some places some things are limited, should not discourage them to believe in what they want. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Legianus@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago* (8 children) I would say ideally not as they represent the state and thus should not wear iconography of any sort for secular states. I also know that this might not be exactly practial in reality permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 4 points 10 months ago (5 children) for a lot of people that is asking them to renounce their religious beliefs in service of the national interest permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Legianus@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago (3 children) Yes I see that problem and in the best case it would not be renouncing their beliefs not to wear something where it is not appropriate, but there are many other beliefs or reasons where one is excluded from official office/army, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Legianus@programming.dev 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Similar to the original meaning of this post. Many countries forbid people to enter the military and similar office, if they are known to hold extreme believes (e.g. extreme right wing rhetoric has been used by them or such). Not always foolproof though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Legianus@programming.dev 1 point 10 months ago I think you are correct as it is now. And I do agree, as it is right now it is not practical to be completely secular for people holding these offices. However, ideally, these groups would not need the recognition in this way as they ought to already have it otherwise and understanding that at some places some things are limited, should not discourage them to believe in what they want. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 4 points 10 months ago (5 children) for a lot of people that is asking them to renounce their religious beliefs in service of the national interest permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Legianus@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago (3 children) Yes I see that problem and in the best case it would not be renouncing their beliefs not to wear something where it is not appropriate, but there are many other beliefs or reasons where one is excluded from official office/army, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Legianus@programming.dev 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Similar to the original meaning of this post. Many countries forbid people to enter the military and similar office, if they are known to hold extreme believes (e.g. extreme right wing rhetoric has been used by them or such). Not always foolproof though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Legianus@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago (3 children) Yes I see that problem and in the best case it would not be renouncing their beliefs not to wear something where it is not appropriate, but there are many other beliefs or reasons where one is excluded from official office/army, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Legianus@programming.dev 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Similar to the original meaning of this post. Many countries forbid people to enter the military and similar office, if they are known to hold extreme believes (e.g. extreme right wing rhetoric has been used by them or such). Not always foolproof though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Legianus@programming.dev 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Similar to the original meaning of this post. Many countries forbid people to enter the military and similar office, if they are known to hold extreme believes (e.g. extreme right wing rhetoric has been used by them or such). Not always foolproof though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Legianus@programming.dev 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Similar to the original meaning of this post. Many countries forbid people to enter the military and similar office, if they are known to hold extreme believes (e.g. extreme right wing rhetoric has been used by them or such). Not always foolproof though permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Legianus@programming.dev 1 point 10 months ago I think you are correct as it is now. And I do agree, as it is right now it is not practical to be completely secular for people holding these offices. However, ideally, these groups would not need the recognition in this way as they ought to already have it otherwise and understanding that at some places some things are limited, should not discourage them to believe in what they want. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Legianus@programming.dev 1 point 10 months ago I think you are correct as it is now. And I do agree, as it is right now it is not practical to be completely secular for people holding these offices. However, ideally, these groups would not need the recognition in this way as they ought to already have it otherwise and understanding that at some places some things are limited, should not discourage them to believe in what they want. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Do you think they're talking about just a regular cross like you'd see on a church? Because that's not the symbol being discussed here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] minnism@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) First, fuck the ADL. They are so pro-fascism their own logo is now a hate-symbol. Second, the Jerusalem cross on dozens of buildings doesn't sounds like a very significant Christian symbol. It's very contextual. Third, you clearly haven't looked very hard. Fourth, your conclusion is... really stupid. Stop being such a snowflake. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] Chippys_mittens@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
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