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Enshittification

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Cory Doctorow - Rescuing the Internet From “Enshittification” | The Daily Show (15 minutes; Dec 9, 2025) (www.youtube.com)

submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by david_@discuss.tchncs.de to c/enshitification@slrpnk.net

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Four levers to fight enshittification:

bring back antitrust laws
better regulation of tech business
tech workers must unionize
interoperability is a must (required by law)

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[–] activistPnk@slrpnk.net 1 point 10 months ago* (3 children)

Plus I don’t think he gets to choose where the Daily Show post anything.

I was not sure why you mentioned The Daily Show considering a fedi user links to Youtube.. then I noticed that in the title. If this is a snip from the daily show about CD, then indeed it was out of CD’s control. Lately it takes a lot to motivate me to try to get a YT video - so I have not seen that video.

I’d better have him exposed to a greater audience than preaching for a bunch of already converted fans

This is a moot point if CD did not put anything on YT. But if CD were to publish a video for outreach, then RMS’s Facebook advice applies. That is, the proper way to do this is to put the full non-enshitified video on peertube. Then in Google’s Youtube post a partial version of the video, like a movie trailer, that ends with directing people to Peertube for the full version. Then all links should go to Peertube, not Youtube. And the Youtube metadata should link to Peertube but there should not be a link from Peertube to Youtube. It should be a 1-way reference so Youtubers can find the content but everyone else goes straight to the freedom-respecting place.

Also not sure about your points about NewPipe. It only fetches video and channel info, without using the Google API or the need of you being logged into yt, so it’s still pretty good when in comes to privacy.

If that were true, Tor would not be blocked. Newpipe is just a front-end. From github:

NewPipe works by fetching the required data from the official API (e.g. PeerTube) of the service you're using. If the official API is restricted (e.g. YouTube) for our purposes, or is proprietary, the app parses the website or uses an internal API instead.

Newpipe still depends on Google’s server. If Google’s server goes offline, Newpipe is dead. Google still gets your IP address and sees what you do. Invidious can do better than that because it’s possible to configure Invidious as a proxy. But Google can still fuck with Invidious instances (and they do) so we’re stuffed anyway.

Hence my recent post calling for a solution: App to torrent swarm Youtube videos and opportunistically do yt-dlp in parallel.

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[–] gringoaleatorio@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

If the official API is restricted (...), the app parses the website or uses an internal API instead

This is fine to me. Tor frontend or not, you could not access anything if google services went down. I'm all for people putting content on other platforms, but for now for consuming content from youtube I'm ok with adopting this solution.

Now, if you want to go on with a project that massively mirrors youtube, feel free!

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[–] activistPnk@slrpnk.net 1 point 10 months ago

This is fine to me.

Along with most of the Google boot-licking world. For those with principled objections to feeding Google, it’s not okay.

Tor frontend or not, you could not access anything if google services went down.

This depends on whether the proxy caches videos. Certainly with Newpipe you are hosed because it does not even have a proxy option.

I’m all for people putting content on other platforms, but for now for consuming content from youtube I’m ok with adopting this solution.

This is because you’ve settled with feeding Google, which enables Google to get away with their oppressions like their recent lockout of both the Tor community and the Invidious community. It’s not an acceptable option from a digital sovereignty standpoint.

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