sidenote, are memes allowed? it doesn't say anything about them not being allowed, but I don't see anybody posting any 🤷‍♀️

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[–] 10 points 10 months ago (6 children)

It's old but it's not even close to the OG. I believe the OG is newsgroups, and after that was p2p file sharing apps like limewire and napster, and only then did torrenting become a big thing

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  • [–] 14 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    I'm gonna ignore non internet based methods. Here is the evolution imo

    1. BBS
    2. Usenet & warez websites
    3. Server client setups (Hotline etc)
    4. P2P without resuming (Napster etc)
    5. P2P W/resume & multiple sources (Kazaa, LimeWire etc)
    6. Torrents
    7. Streaming torrents
    8. Usenet

    Edit: I'm seeing IRC a lot, not sure where it fits in this list. Assume it's around no 2.

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  • This is the correct list, having lived through it. BBS services in the mid-1980s were the start of Razor1911, Paradox and other distro and cracker groups. I'd edit 2 to include FTP which is what BBS evolved into with secret dropsites for new releases.

    IRC is 2.5 on this list. You can group that alongside the pre-web internet services, like AOL which had slightly IRC-like chat rooms dedicated to serving warez and videos in the same way (requesting a list from a chatbot, and then requesting sequential files).

    Some light history here, though like all warez-related scholarship, there's a ton missing that you had to have seen to know:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warez_scene

    https://archive.org/details/b904a8eb-9c98-4bb1-bf25-3cb9d075b157/

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