You can't seem to separate what they call themselves from what they are. They stole the word conservative which I consider myself a genuine conservative. Part of being a real conservative is not judging or involving yourselves in others lives. If they don't impact my life I care not what others do. Its taking changes slowly and in this world that is watching expenditures carefully. Its a lot of things. None of these are things what the majority calling themselves conservative today are.

You need to back up to the french revolution? Keep going. You can go back to the building of the pyramids and see the same thing. But I'm not talking about ancient Egypt much less the french revolution that quickly became just as In group as what they replaced. Just to be clear, fuck the french. I'm talking about the US today and don't need to muddy the waters.

The magats are not conservative today. They just call themselves that. They are regressive. You are just playing their game insisting on making this morass about in groups and other useless comparisons. You are a useful tool for them. Like I said the scam you describe is ongoing all over the world right now. Has been for nearly all of human existence. Its seems that you can't get past that. You keep talking about in groups like its some revelation when its just the way societies have always worked. If they were instantly gone today some new system just like it would spring up. Hell they might call themselves conservative but probably they would call themselves woke and would become just as corrupt quicker than you think.