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[โ€“] huppakee@lemm.ee 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You'd have to find people who are willing to put in more than they receive, and they (as a group) have to put an equal amount as people who are not able to put in the full amount, because it needs to equal out in the end. This would basically be a group of people sharing their income with people with lower incomes. Imagine it would start by spreading just โ‚ฌ10 every month to people who are in need of money by the people who have a surplus of money - it would already be a hard sell. I expect the 'rich' participants to be more likely to donate to charity. To be honest, I don't think this is gonna work on a small scale. But I won't stop you if you were to get something like this going ofcourse

[โ€“] seeigel@feddit.org 1 points 4 days ago

The middle class would be paying the taxes for public UBI, too. The problem is that the huge part of social insurance money would be paid twice if it is a club, once as taxes for the general population and once as membership fees to the club for unemployed members.

A UBI club is an investment in social change. It does not have to fully make economic sense but needs members who want the change and are willing to pay for it.

If UBI is on top of social insurance money for members, instead of diminishing it, and if money given to the club is tax deductable, the economics should make sense. So it may need some political change.

Like you say, UBI is sharing income with lower income people. If that is not acceptable for a huge part of the population it would not be possible to introduce it.